#14 Endgame Part 3 (Sites Gameplay)

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If steel legion and DS exist in the same world, using steel legion war machine as miniature turret in dino storm is also a nice touch to make war interesting,

Have some turret available in lily store, make the turret not too broken and not have a lot of hp but it's HP could be recovered if not destroyed... To make people silver crown worth in the lily store

PG too. I remember a friend showing me the crashed ship years ago in ccv. Favourite place to levelup after mokon imo. Why not make something out of pg in ds again. Or maybe have ds maps as planets in pg

 

[Rockspider19]

Ally make all buldings 400% and never take buldings great idea

right now everything is basic and you still not taking building.
if excellent buildings were longest to drain when dv releases a gate you have a chance to steal it and bunker down.

 

[Rockspider19]

I understand the most things you mentioned but I'm curious about your enemy having a Tank Dino and Agi being a problem. Don't you have any ally clan that has a Pachy and Hammer/SS you can give ep to delay(and damage by SS) the attacker? Cause afaik they will still be paralyzed for 6 sec if they got hit by the Pachy ep EVEN wearing Heat Imp.

did you miss the step where i said 'ignore all fighting' because pachy cant do anything if you dont charge its extra power. and our ally all run rex ... but still pachy is a weaker dino and brachi can kill it pretty quickly if they decide.

 

[Rockspider19]

I don't think players should be able to upgrade buildings higher than their ranger level.

 

[Rockspider19]

I understand the most things you mentioned but I'm curious about your enemy having a Tank Dino and Agi being a problem. Don't you have any ally clan that has a Pachy and Hammer/SS you can give ep to delay(and damage by SS) the attacker? Cause afaik they will still be paralyzed for 6 sec if they got hit by the Pachy ep EVEN wearing Heat Imp.

also to add more the easy target effect from pachy is not long enough to be meaningful. you'll still need to out number the enemy by a large margin because brachi is a chunk of meat that wont die fast and even if you kill it you need to kill all the enemy brachi in the circle beacuse having even 1 enemy in the circle drains the gate. EVEN IF YOU KILL THEM THEY JUST RESPAWN AT THE DV GATE AND RUN BACK TO DRAIN AGAIN. plus charging an ally pachy does damage to the pachy so enemies can just kill it. and if you dont have allies? you are just stuck their to deal with the chunks of meat draining the tower.

 

[..Arcadius..]

@Highway So in what way is the-20 drain and +5 repair fair? Attackers can already take a 400% gate within 2 minutes which isn't enough for the clan holding a gate to react. At least +15 repair, defenders were able to win themselves some time by staying near the gate while attempting to defeat attackers.

Now you can just see 3-4 people with full tank builds just sitting at a random gate and not even fighting back.

 

[Nomad]

@Highway Only few tank build brachs can easily take gates in 1-2 minutes on eu1, and we cant do anything against them because we only able to repair gates +5. Those attackers do not attacking to us and our extra power is not charged and we cannot do anything.

 

[S19]

tell me how to take with 3-4 ppl today 20+ fekete online

@Highway

what is this nonsense?

I dont even play eu1, and now you're breaking the repair rate that was good (15 points repair) in favor of 3 player from a server ?

you're basically neglecting the defence on other server just for 1?

how does it make sense

 

[..Arcadius..]

tell me how to take with 3-4 ppl today 20+ fekete online

By spamming tanks and not fighting back apparently.

 

[..Arcadius..]

@Highway I believe you can somehow test it yourself if you'd like to. Even 15 defenders can't beat 5 attackers on tanks during that time margin.

 

[DarkMyth.]

Yep 4ppl 100%

doesn't look like 20 to me either, so u're lying here on the forum by saying u have 20 players attacking?

 

[..Arcadius..]

Yep 4ppl 100%

Nice 20

 

[DarkMyth.]

As You said attacking not waiting in dv

Stop lying to yourself and to everyone here for the love of god

 

[..Arcadius..]

tell me how to take with 3-4 ppl today 20+ fekete online

Believe me if you had 20, you'd have a map by now.

 

[S4TW]

@Highway tell me how do you expect a fair game with 4-5 even 7 attackers on brachios draining an excellent gate and even tho they're being attacked by 15+ PPL it's hard to kill tanks just like that, not to mention the +5 repair rate vs -20 draining rate which in my opinion shouldn't be tested on a live server in the first place.

 

[Queenie]

@Highway (apologies for the ping but i do want you to see this opinion and also others)
I agree with others that this isn't balanced at all. Yes, attackers had it harder before, but this isn't about even strategy or skills anymore. As many people said, it takes just brachis camping at a gate because they can drain the gate faster than we can even heal it with the +5. If it would be fair, then -20 and +10/15 would be fine. Not to mention the gates' hp too low as well.

 

[NazzaFire]

@Highway tell me how do you expect a fair game with 4-5 even 7 attackers on brachios draining an excellent gate and even tho they're being attacked by 15+ PPL it's hard to kill tanks just like that, not to mention the +5 repair rate vs -20 draining rate which in my opinion shouldn't be tested on a live server in the first place.

If you reread what you said, you understand why this is right lol

 

[piotr50000009]

If you reread what you said, you understand why this is right lol

Clanless..

 

[piotr50000009]

Goofiness aside,

Brachis seem to be quite the issue, even if defenders are at the gate already the attackers can still drain it in time if it's high % and defenders cant defend themselves because it takes way too much time to kill those brachis

Tldr before you kill all brachis the gate is already drained (Plus they can just kit (if anyone still does that '-'))

 

[S4TW]

Goofiness aside,

Brachis seem to be quite the issue, even if defenders are at the gate already the attackers can still drain it in time if it's high % and defenders cant defend themselves because it takes way too much time to kill those brachis

Tldr before you kill all brachis the gate is already drained (Plus they can just kit (if anyone still does that '-'))

They use brachios, rush on a gate, heal and use the ''Chest attack'' on extra power - not to mention the implants that they use. They also do use kits which makes it way more difficult even tho kits are nerfed now.

 

[piotr50000009]

They use brachios, rush on a gate, heal and use the ''Chest attack'' on extra power - not to mention the implants that they use. They also do use kits which makes it way more difficult even tho kits are nerfed now.

Yes but even if defender is on a gate already it's still impossible to defend it if there's too many, even number advantage doesn't help

 

[S4TW]

Yes but even if defender is on a gate already it's still impossible to defend it if there's too many, even number advantage doesn't help

Especially with the healing rate they added on Eu_1 which is just +5, in that case there's no chances of protecting the gates even against few attackers.

 

[..Arcadius..]

Definitely balanced.

 

[..Arcadius..]

Us with rexs:

Nice rexes.

 

[NazzaFire]

Although it may seem unfair, it is fair since there are few players who attack

 

[Rockspider19]

We 20 online eu1 we try dv ins (mission failed)

will need more than 20 for eu1

 

[poppin]

will need more than 20 for eu1

21 enuff?

 

[Rockspider19]

@Highway So in what way is the-20 drain and +5 repair fair? Attackers can already take a 400% gate within 2 minutes which isn't enough for the clan holding a gate to react. At least +15 repair, defenders were able to win themselves some time by staying near the gate while attempting to defeat attackers.

Now you can just see 3-4 people with full tank builds just sitting at a random gate and not even fighting back.

Get use to using basic gates if you want to keep them LOL

 

[Rockspider19]

Lets keep the good flow of discussion and avoiding to teasing other players (and avoid any spam here please).
I see valid points for both sides and its great that EU1 is up for the challenge to find a way that both sides have fun for the site combat.

It might really be that both sides need to adapt their tactic on how it you can defend (with the reduced repair rate) and the how to attack to gain advantage.

Its best to ignore the crys of eu1 as that server is not like the others. but the tank spam is boring to fight, down side of that strat being it costs a lot of dds so they can't do it very offen.

 

[S4TW]

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Definitely balanced.

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