Feedback Thread · Endgame Part 3 Open PTR Test

[yewhuiyuan]

Could we use this timing for update 3?

 

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Could we use this timing for update 3?

Depends on which server you mean

 

[Malekith]

I have some doubts there, as from what i saw during ptr, brachi was not that easily slain. also giving more strength is also incentive to change tactics and actually get in close with it.

This would make more sense if weapons still counted melee damage and not just the strength of the dinos, mind you. Someone with a full resistance set can easily "stick" to someone with lower resistance. And in my opinion, brachy/anky are dinos that are strong due to their high life, I'm not saying that their skills are broken or anything like that, literally the only effective skill in a fight between these two would be brachy's shield, the others are useless if the enemy uses stability.

The second point is that we have different types of PvP combat, we have the situation 1x1, 2x2, 3x3 which is still possible to use most of the dinos apart from the rex, a 3x3 between 3 brachy and 3 rex we already know the result. Now in terms of wars, the overwhelming use of the brachy in relation to all others is undeniable, and even now with the Gat, which is practically the only weapon used in large-scale PvP, the brachy is the only option.

In short, in my opinion, brachy/anky is a problem and the only solution that players found was gat to kill it more quickly, but the combination of brachy and gat is practically invincible.

 

[Alewx]

As a little snippet from current Tracking of the game:

Gattling	33%​
Peacemaker	23%​
Hammer	17%​
Showstopper	16%​
Colt	7%​
Yager	4%​

These are the numbers when it comes to usages, since their last update. And compared ro previous trackings where something like peacemaker would be used 66% of the time, these numbers are not the greatest but still show a far more diverging battlefield.
From that I would not go so far to say, the Gattlign would be the one solution to every battle.

 

[Malekith]

See, as I said there are several PvP situations. In wars the gat is the best weapon because of its critical that helps to kill dinos with a lot of health much more easily, Paci does better in small fights, as I said the problem is not the gattling itself, but dinos with 1 million of life who only die if they go against gatt.

 

[jishkaa1]

yea, i think that should be main focus for devs rn

 

[jishkaa1]

please make fireworks cheap lol

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[Highway]

As we added a lot of stuff again we do another public ptr:

PTR 1244 Changelog

PTR 1244 Changelog Dynamic Dinoville-owned Sites Implemented logic that sites are dynamically taken by Dinoville based on player activity in the Townhall ~5 seconds before each conflict phase sites can be claimed or released by Dinoville based on the activity previous owner can still get the...

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Server will open for public very soon

 

[Pleiadian]

What is the idea behind restricting Travel during the Vulnerable Phase?

Seems pointless if I have to go to a specific area of the map.

It's forcing me to use the gates owned by Dinoville, then take the long route to my destinated place that I want to go.

 

[cOsMiNN]

What is the idea behind restricting Travel during the Vulnerable Phase?

Seems pointless if I have to go to a specific area of the map.

It's forcing me to use the gates owned by Dinoville, then take the long route to my destinated place that I want to go.

The only ''fix'' is buying tp matrix, which is still only usable when you don't have duelist. It also makes me think to group up people to the safe gates and just spawnkill whoever tries to walk out of it.

 

[Pleiadian]

Yea well, they have introduced a new gel, the "Cheap Travel Gel"

It doesn't make sense to introduce such an item, while at the same time restricting the travel around. People will not find value in the Cheap Travel Gels now.

It also makes me think to group up people to the safe gates and just spawnkill whoever tries to walk out of it.

Yeah, that's a negative consequence of that change.

 

[Highway]

What is the idea behind restricting Travel during the Vulnerable Phase?

This is something that was planned early in the concept, but was postponed as we did not have permanend and dynamic dinoville owned buildings per map. The itention is that defenders and attackers must prepare themselves before the actual conflict starts. It should give a more clear combat front between attackers/defenders and will open up as soon as buildings are overtaken (reclaimed). It also feels a bit odd that an attacker can teleport to a building that is not yet under attack and directly attack it.

Still this will be evaluated how the game play around buildings will change for the positive/negative. Give it a try and let us know your feedback.

 

[cOsMiNN]

This is something that was planned early in the concept, but was postponed as we did not have permanend and dynamic dinoville owned buildings per map. The itention is that defenders and attackers must prepare themselves before the actual conflict starts. It should give a more clear combat front between attackers/defenders and will open up as soon as buildings are overtaken (reclaimed). It also feels a bit odd that an attacker can teleport to a building that is not yet under attack and directly attack it.

Still this will be evaluated how the game play around buildings will change for the positive/negative. Give it a try and let us know your feedback.

That makes kits overpowered again doesn't it? While I have to walk all the way to the gate when I'm killed, the other guy can just drain until I come back, and do the same thing again and again until it's his building. Vice versa, if the guy defending does the kitting, the guy attacking can basically never really get the building.

 

[Luka Patajac]

So do reclaimed gates count as usable by everyone again in this scenario?

 

[Pleiadian]

The itention is that defenders and attackers must prepare themselves before the actual conflict starts. It should give a more clear combat front between attackers/defenders and will open up as soon as buildings are overtaken (reclaimed). It also feels a bit odd that an attacker can teleport to a building that is not yet under attack and directly attack it.

This could technically work if the map layout were all connected and not bi-directional (like currently).

For example, you have the Permanent Dinoville-Owned gate placed at the center of the map, whilst the other sites are spread out, then we would use the multiple routes that would lead to the destinated Site I want to go to.

Unfortunately, it will not work currently because it takes us too long to reach a specific spot, and as Cosminn has said, this raises the problem of "Compact Kits being OP again".

Don't count on Jump Link.

As we have said before, Jump Link will not be present at all times to fulfill our needs.

 

[Pleiadian]

Vitality is boosted by 5% and adds 75 points.

What even is that 75 points? What kind of measurement is being referred to here?

 

[..Arcadius..]

Kinda confusing

 

[..Arcadius..]

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Vitality is boosted by 5% and adds 75 points.

What even is that 75 points? What kind of measurement is being referred to here?

75 Vitality points (750 hp)

 

[Pleiadian]

75 Vitality points (750 hp)

I used a Vitality Booster and it added around 30k HP to my Carno.

 

[Highway]

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Vitality is boosted by 5% and adds 75 points.

What even is that 75 points? What kind of measurement is being referred to here?

Clan boosters add a defined percentage on your current attribute count and an additional offset. The offset is there to allow the booster to have an effect even when not having attribute points.

 

[Mufasa]

Hello, I found the new att attributes to be very influential and interesting for the development of attacks.

However, I think that a system that is already old and could help the development of the game more would be the alliance system, which would have a symbol as shown in the image in a round format, also in blue coloring to demonstrate clans and members of allied clans. I think this in the middle of a war as an example is essential because we often end up attacking allies unintentionally, also helping a lot with the issue of location.
The colors are defined as:
Green- Friend on your list.
Purple- member of the clan you belong to.
Blue- Member of allied clans.


There could be a building so that leaders and their right hands can add and edit clans belonging to the alliance.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

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Interesting changes, dope memories.

BOOM bot's out c:

no jealousy and no hate btw coz I didnt wanna win it twice coz I made my priority to test part 3 mechanics this time and congrats for being the 2nd one to so so. -Leviathan

 

[Pleiadian]

Travel Gate that was supposed to be held permanently by Dinoville is showing timer, is that a bug?

 

[Luka Patajac]

shouldnt we be able to tp all perma owned by dv even in vulnerable phase btw?

 

[cOsMiNN]

Hello, I found the new att attributes to be very influential and interesting for the development of attacks.

However, I think that a system that is already old and could help the development of the game more would be the alliance system, which would have a symbol as shown in the image in a round format, also in blue coloring to demonstrate clans and members of allied clans. I think this in the middle of a war as an example is essential because we often end up attacking allies unintentionally, also helping a lot with the issue of location.
The colors are defined as:
Green- Friend on your list.
Purple- member of the clan you belong to.
Blue- Member of allied clans.
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There could be a building so that leaders and their right hands can add and edit clans belonging to the alliance.

Again, the update is meant to destroy alliances, and adding a system that favors them would be hypocritical from the dev's part

 

[Pleiadian]

The idea of being able to see the amount of fame in a Site that does not belong to me was actually an interesting one.

It should be added.

 

[Highway]

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Travel Gate that was supposed to be held permanently by Dinoville is showing timer, is that a bug?

Yes that is a bug. A report in the bug forum would be good so that it is not lost

There is also an issue with travel gate rescue not working as it should right now. Next PTR will have it fixed

 

[ThiagoXDestruidor]

@Highway @Alewx

See, I think that spawning only in the central portal in the attack phases is very easy to defend. Just take all the portals and gather your entire clan in the safe portal. If you want to bring this idea, it would be better not to only revive in the Dinoville portal and go to the neutral portal, you could bring back the mechanic of being reborn in the portal closest to death available as in the past.

Second point, I liked the part about the boosters and how they are based on the percentage of the total attribute that the player is using, and I thought the amount of Dino Dollars was good.

I see that they changed the lives of certain dinos, and you will notice that brachy and anky will still be the main dinos even after the 4% nerf is not much.

OBS:I noticed that you want to centralize things around Dino Dollars, that's great, but there is a catch, which is the way they are currently acquired, but this conversation could be for future updates.

 

[DalekRaptor]

Note: We plan to adjust the dollar pricing for the gates so that its more dependend on the ranger level. This is to make the costs the same regardless on what map you play. The pricing will be similar as before when you compare it to the map to your matching level.

What is the point about this? more slavery? do you don't understand players don't like to be forced to hunt more?

A same price for all the maps is a good idea, but not the same that have Maujak Mountains. 1000 dinodollars would be fine for example; that makes 1 trash item = 1 tp or respawn

 

[DalekRaptor]

Implemented that sites are only usable for travel and rescue when they are not vulnerable or attacked.

This is a bad idea, the sites must be used when they are vulnerable. Otherwise (as other players pointed out) the enemies would camp at the dinoville's sites and will be hard to respawn or even reach some zones because the maps are linear