#14 Endgame Part 3 (Sites Gameplay)

[Pleiadian]

There will be an attack during mid day. That will be possible for those attackers to attack.

If you're asking for an attack window during inactive hours, now you're forcing the whole Europe servers to wake up at an inconvenient hours to attack and defend?? Lol.

If you're coming with the argument that there's non European players on those EU server, then it's their fault.

The timestamp when you press F11 reflect European time. Not Asia or American time.

Different server, different timezone. Respect it.

I am from Europe and I choose this server because I know that at peak time there will be a lot of people active whom I can play with, why should Developer give priority to non European players in an EU server?? Makes absolutely no sense.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

"Unlike u im not kicked off from every server that I start to play"

wow imagine judging others in this way out of the blue

I see u chose to attack me personally for things which I don't even know why or what ur saying XD
Obviously u couldn't say something better than I did so u choose to attack me personally instead of making a good claim on why I'm wrong XD

I love to attack at nights, game is more fun when theres shorter attack windows on times when servers are less active, i don't mean just for EU.
All servers need to have inactive server attack window for a short time.

whoever works hard will reap the fame, if they choose to attack at night, so be it.

 

[Igaflys]

"Unlike u im not kicked off from every server that I start to play"

wow imagine judging others in this way out of the blue

I see u chose to attack me personally for things which I don't even know why or what ur saying XD
Obviously u couldn't say something better than I did so u choose to attack me personally instead of making a good claim on why I'm wrong XD

I love to attack at nights, game is more fun when theres shorter attack windows on times when servers are less active, i don't mean just for EU.
All servers need to have inactive server attack window for a short time.

whoever works hard will reap the fame, if they choose to attack at night, so be it.

Im not judging you just saying facts tbh. Youre leader of small clan thats right and for how long? More than 2 years. Youve made many friends and trustworthy persons inside your clan for sure. I just feel sorry for them that you actually let them live in lies. If you really wanted help them achieve something you would have already talked with the alliance instead of all time fighting with it and with other alliances on all servers.

And youre the one who attacks me personally even by saying "Obviously u couldn't say something better than I did" or even " And you obviously are from alliance and wanna maintain power"

Like bro.

WHAT
THE
FUCK

I just simply explained why your idea is trash -> its already in the game.

This is the way.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

Im not judging you just saying facts tbh. Youre leader of small clan thats right and for how long? More than 2 years. Youve made many friends and trustworthy persons inside your clan for sure. I just feel sorry for them that you actually let them live in lies. If you really wanted help them achieve something you would have already talked with the alliance instead of all time fighting with it and with other alliances on all servers.

And youre the one who attacks me personally even by saying "Obviously u couldn't say something better than I did" or even " And you obviously are from alliance and wanna maintain power"

Like bro.

WHAT
THE
FUCK

I just simply explained why your idea is trash -> its already in the game.

This is the way.

>1 year
>first clan in eu4 to win high tier elections without struggling for map thanks to part 2
> I'm feeding my people lies?? Idk why they even love me and want to be with me :/ they can join better side if they wish, I'm not stopping anyone by chains :/
> Ik what I'm saying coz it will be benefits both parties NOT JUST ME.
I dont dream to destroy alliance with part 3, IM JUST ASKING FOR BALANCE ON BOTH SIDES.

Things u say about having attack window on active hours only gives advantage to alliances, what's the point attacking them that time when they gonna take everything back a 100% everytime? Nothing changed at all. What u saying is already in the game btw, not me xD

do self reflect on what u said lol

 

[Pleiadian]

I love to attack at nights, game is more fun when theres shorter attack windows on times when servers are less active

"Shorter attack windows when servers are less active"

You want to steal fame while your enemies are sleeping.

You don't want to fight, you are just looking for a sneaky way to steal fame from the majority of players. That's literally what you're asking.

Not only is your situation "an only case", but you're asking for a special attack time that suits your own specific individual needs and wants.

 

[XAragornX]

U are lying even on forum Site about u won smth by part 2. Yours clan won Just 2x time gov bcs noone applied on it. Stop lying ppl and stop argue with ppl Who said truth in up. U got freekill thing for things which no one like.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

U are lying even on forum Site about u won smth by part 2. Yours clan won Just 2x time gov bcs noone applied on it. Stop lying ppl and stop argue with ppl Who said truth in up. U got freekill thing for things which no one like.

Or let's put it on another sentence, we outfamed ur ally in elections even while them having buildings >.>

 

[XAragornX]

Why should be attacks during time when one side cant defend ownself it would be useless since they couldnt do anything again enemy. And its to all Eu servers same as to Am. Everyone know u on e4 and u keep asking about things for make ownself smth while u didnt even won sherrif Just u stolen it.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

I won't talk more cuz u guys are talking behalf on alliance. I would agree on behalf of ur enemies but it's getting pointless and having multiple window attacks during different hours is worth it.

 

[XAragornX]

Problem here is with u if u would be diffrent to ppl since first day on e4 u could earn everything its yours Just fault.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

"Shorter attack windows when servers are less active"

You want to steal fame while your enemies are sleeping.

You don't want to fight, you are just looking for a sneaky way to steal fame from the majority of players. That's literally what you're asking.

Not only is your situation "an only case", but you're asking for a special attack time that suits your own specific individual needs and wants.

Only case? There are 50s of players like me, Ik a few myself who love attacking that time aha x-x

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

Problem here is with u if u would be diffrent to ppl since first day on e4 u could earn everything its yours Just fault.

Im all for peace but ur ally doesn't want it, many alliance don't want peace cuz of ego and whatever ohoo

 

[- Cause -]

Im not judging you just saying facts tbh. Youre leader of small clan thats right and for how long? More than 2 years. Youve made many friends and trustworthy persons inside your clan for sure. I just feel sorry for them that you actually let them live in lies. If you really wanted help them achieve something you would have already talked with the alliance instead of all time fighting with it and with other alliances on all servers.

And youre the one who attacks me personally even by saying "Obviously u couldn't say something better than I did" or even " And you obviously are from alliance and wanna maintain power"

Like bro.

WHAT
THE
FUCK

I just simply explained why your idea is trash -> its already in the game.

This is the way.

bro dont swear. i censured a swearword and got contacted to watch my language.


Guys if you want to fight over it, exchange your discords and do it in pv. Ty

 

[VioletRosa]

UWU

 

[Igaflys]

bro dont swear. i censured a swearword and got contacted to watch my language.


Guys if you want to fight over it, exchange your discords and do it in pv. Ty

Theres no need for me to answer on that and also its not place for this to continiue, Its thread about pt3 so let it be it.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

bro dont swear. i censured a swearword and got contacted to watch my language.


Guys if you want to fight over it, exchange your discords and do it in pv. Ty

Didn't fight but was only stating what would be right and this isn't the place for it, leaving it up to Devs xD

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

It would be nice if they release ptr on march or before the event so that players can focus on ptr solely instead of worrying about completing the event before it ends .-.

 

[Pleiadian]

@Highway

I want to bring your attention to a possible exploit being laid down.

1 Player opens multiple accounts, sets up each account at 1 tower, and puts them to drain.

The cost to drain a tower is so low (both in terms of levels and the fact that we won't need any supply charge to attack a tower) that attackers abuse this exploit.

When Part 3 of the update is here, where it would be possible to steal fame, this will be even worse for defenders.

 

[Alewx]

@Highway

I want to bring your attention to a possible exploit being laid down.

1 Player opens multiple accounts, sets up each account at 1 tower, and puts them to drain.

The cost to drain a tower is so low (both in terms of levels and the fact that we won't need any supply charge to attack a tower) that attackers abuse this exploit.

When Part 3 of the update is here, where it would be possible to steal fame, this will be even worse for defenders.

this is the reason for the attack windows, when it all happens focused at limited times things are less manageable in such an exploit, and you still have to be in correct level area. making a mio lvl 1 accounts will just get you nowhere.

 

[Targaryen]

this is the reason for the attack windows, when it all happens focused at limited times things are less manageable in such an exploit, and you still have to be in correct level area. making a mio lvl 1 accounts will just get you nowhere.

I imagine he wanted to mention account sharing, the person logs into 5 lvl 55 accounts and leaves it draining

 

[Pleiadian]

making a mio lvl 1 accounts will just get you nowhere.

Correct.

However, when I wrote this post, I was refering to a level somewhat between level 5 - level 15.

It's easy to upgrade to level 15 in a week.

Because of this, towers in Goldfields maps are most vulnerable to this exploit.

All a player have to do is open multiple accounts, make it ready to hit a tower and let it drain.

Even better if there's 2 player opening multiple low level accounts to drain.

How about 3 players opening many low level accounts??

Now it's an unfair advantage to the attackers using unfair means against defenders playing within the rules.

 

[Alewx]

I imagine he wanted to mention account sharing, the person logs into 5 lvl 55 accounts and leaves it draining

That means loss of account, Sharing is against our ruleset.

 

[Targaryen]

That means loss of account, Sharing is against our ruleset.

Yes, but unfortunately it happens. And the same people will come here on the forum and cry about having their accounts banned. xd

 

[Igaflys]

Yes, but unfortunately it happens. And the same people will come here on the forum and cry about having their accounts banned. xd

indeed, no matter what u guys do people will always find a way to do multis or sharing so xd

 

[- Francesca -]

Scusate la domanda irrilevante, ma non abbiamo ancora sentito parlare di nuove aggiunte come dinosauri o armi?

 

[Evyus]

About the different time zone.. the PTR are coming and the devs will check it.. and put the right time.. ofc I don't want to wake up 3am to defend my map
About the little clans: the game is pvp .. make your clan strong, recruiting members.. making a good proposal about fame .. now everyone need fame until who already have rex. Or drain alone.. it's funny

 

[Igaflys]

About the different time zone.. the PTR are coming and the devs will check it.. and put the right time.. ofc I don't want to wake up 3am to defend my map
About the little clans: the game is pvp .. make your clan strong, recruiting members.. making a good proposal about fame .. now everyone need fame until who already have rex. Or drain alone.. it's funny

Well youve got a point here but youre saying how the game should work, but in real it's not like that. Some people still even after getting rex and sheriff are griddy and they're going once again for sheriff or other high elections and winning it. Currently when there is huge lack of new players in the game the 'new players' on the servers are mostly friends of alliance clan leaders or just players from different servers. So for someone who is real new player it's very hard to get into an alliance clan (because lets just be honest, people dont accept low lvls or newbies in clan in case of this account being multi acc of enemies). Then the low lvl player decides to make his own clan - so that he wont stay alone and since most of the servers are dead, he can only gather around 20 people to his clan (if he's lucky). Its impossible to grow that clan stronger since all of the other players are in the alliance. And the alliance won't give buildings to low clan - i guess I dont have to explain it why.

 

[TheDinoWarrior]

Well youve got a point here but youre saying how the game should work, but in real it's not like that. Some people still even after getting rex and sheriff are griddy and they're going once again for sheriff or other high elections and winning it. Currently when there is huge lack of new players in the game the 'new players' on the servers are mostly friends of alliance clan leaders or just players from different servers. So for someone who is real new player it's very hard to get into an alliance clan (because lets just be honest, people dont accept low lvls or newbies in clan in case of this account being multi acc of enemies). Then the low lvl player decides to make his own clan - so that he wont stay alone and since most of the servers are dead, he can only gather around 20 people to his clan (if he's lucky). Its impossible to grow that clan stronger since all of the other players are in the alliance. And the alliance won't give buildings to low clan - i guess I dont have to explain it why.

Bravo u hit the nail on wall exactly. They need to randomize server selection instead of eu1 for newbies or do mass advertising on steams and other platforms again

 

[Czarna]

That means loss of account, Sharing is against our ruleset.

Only after that account gets a sufficient number of reports with proof. And proof isn't that easy to obtain since none of those accounts are required to speak a single time in chat.

Besides, losing a lvl 15 account is no big deal. Many more can be created in a matter of days. This strategy is already very effective - and because the update will make that strategy stronger, it will be abused even more. There needs to be a way to prevent it from happening, or make it ineffective against legitimate means of play.

 

[Igaflys]

I actually may have an idea to solve the issue. Can be very controversial but I think it will be way harder for the people that do multis to avoid it.

How about making attacks on the buildings availabe only for people that have around 100 hours of active gameplay?
The number is just an example it doesnt have to be like that, i dont know if its high or low but for sure it will make people less likely to make multis since who would want farm 100 hours all time on 10 accs xD

Only after that account gets a sufficient number of reports with proof. And proof isn't that easy to obtain since none of those accounts are required to speak a single time in chat.

Besides, losing a lvl 15 account is no big deal. Many more can be created in a matter of days. This strategy is already very effective - and because the update will make that strategy stronger, it will be abused even more. There needs to be a way to prevent it from happening, or make it ineffective against legitimate means of play.