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all the free games have items that need real money to be buyied (and a limitated quantity can be obtained "free"), the difference with the pay games like wow is that you don't need pay a licensy or the game itself lol that is basic. Or do you want the game close because no one buy supplies, skins, boosters etc?
 

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I think we should be allowed to "AT LEAST" know which clans are running every office and be visible for everyone. Not necessary which player & how much fame.

There should be also a deadline for who join and then evaluation period ends which stop further investment.

Knowing which clans are competing will help combating them in the field and seizing their buildings fame before they use it against our members in elections. Not to mention that it will help establish little order between neighboring clans, instead of total never-ending war for dominance.
 

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Currently all free games need things for be buyied with real money (or optionaal) unless of course you are talking about flash player web games xd
 

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Whatever u all say ppls that want that thing is kids with no brain that think that they will have easy rex till they see the things after they will start go offline and wait rex to come bcz after long time they will not afford more wars and all will leave ;) idk what forum is thinking whatever it is is mot right give us what u said first and after let talk for ur ideas with this elections
 

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That's the point about free-to-play games, if you think they deserve your support, you support them. They don't force you to pay them to achieve the endgame
 

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As I said, everyone is basing themselves on the current format of the game, and if it doesn't really change it will be terrible, but my view is being optimistic about what is to come.
I would like to be informed about what's coming first, and how we would be compensated before any of this step foot in our live servers. That's how normal people at least deal with change.

Many changes need to be made for frequent wars to be feasible and I see a possible way for that, wouldn't it be fair that those who invest more time in the game have advantages? Hold possession of the premises as long as you can and be rewarded proportionately, I see no problem here. It seems that they are used to being off and just logging in to collect and supply, it's time to change that there, do you want fame? Log in and conquer / defend. Don't have time or resources? Okay, accept that your progress will be smaller and more time consuming, but not impossible.
That all can still be achieved without promoting chaos & anarchy.
 

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But of course, that's my point. They are still making tons of money and I wasn't even forced once to do so.
Here also you don't need to do, i have friends that never buyed gold on the game and that didn't stoped them from play of course they have different objetives but still with the current system of clan fame is possible (and there were many) a player that winned rex without spend any of its money buying gold xd
 

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  1. Each Building requires 8 supplies every 24 hours.
    • All 5 maps require 520 supplies every day during peace.
if you use 1 long-life gel, just which lasts 1h (A class) then you would need just 6 supplies for 24 hours. better show numbers which really show the reality. idk who still doesnt use gel before supplying towers, maybe just new player who doesnt have towers at all.
 

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if you use 1 long-life gel, just which lasts 1h (A class) then you would need just 6 supplies for 24 hours. better show numbers which really show the reality. idk who still doesnt use gel before supplying towers, maybe just new player who doesnt have towers at all.
I wanted to complain about the power gel as separated issue because of the prices class B & class C are set by, but I got distracted, Yet I acknowledge this part, but it is still worth of mention that power gel could be an advantage or disadvantage, depends on how many times you benefit from using it, how many buildings you supply, and how many times you supply per day.
 

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Here also you don't need to do, i have friends that never buyed gold on the game and that didn't stoped them from play of course they have different objetives but still with the current system of clan fame is possible (and there were many) a player that winned rex without spend any of its money buying gold xd
@snnrk You will tell him the words you kept telling me, or should I tell him by myself?
 

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  • Not knowing who join the election beside you.
  • Not knowing how much fame you are required to invest before actually investing.
  • Not knowing how much fame people who are running the office with you have invested
@Highway didnt say that what he showed will be 100%, but asked for feedback. in the reply about new concept @Highway clearly said that about showing who has the most fame or not will be still discussed, so instead of stating that he is promoting, just say that you dont like it and same about rest things.

  • Making it a possibility to know if you are the top Investor in election, allowing you to not invest, all while your opponent thinks he's winning, then suddenly invest at the last seconds before the evaluation period ends.
i dont know where you would be able to store enough fame to overcome somebody in high election places, at least on eu2 nobody saves fame in clan inventory or in his warehouse for gov or sheriff elections as it is nonsense, i think similar situation is on eu3.
 

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There should be also a deadline for who join and then evaluation period ends which stop further investment.
as i saw highway didnt say anything about deadline being removed, so current deadlines like for gov 4,5 days or sheriff 7 days will stay anyway i guess
 

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I would like to be informed about what's coming first, and how we would be compensated before any of this step foot in our live servers. That's how normal people at least deal with
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The building gameplay is left out for now as the concept here is quite complex and still needs more time to get worked out properly. But what we want here is to offer a diverse gameplay around buildings that is less static that the current one. That needs the clans to be more active to get their rewards etc. and with it give more room for smaller clans to get their piece of the cake. But quite possible that this will be a seperate update.
ask for this information directly from the highway, I also want to know what the changes are in order to give a sincere and grounded opinion.
That all can still be achieved without promoting chaos & anarchy.
But what chaos and anarchy? Is each clan following your interests? Or are you just afraid of losing a big alliance?

@snnrk You will tell him the words you kept telling me, or should I tell him by myself?
there are so many that I don't even know, you can say
 

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I would like to be informed about what's coming first, and how we would be compensated before any of this step foot in our live servers.
I reckon that there would be a sort of public test before the official release in PTR, and also, whatever Developer Highway wrote, is not 100% how the concept would look like- there's still more that we'd need to see. Either way, after reading through those feedback, they would know that we've made it clear of the downside of a never-ending war.

And how some information shouldn't stay hidden from others.
 

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Or are you just afraid of losing a big alliance?
Touché

Also, no, it's not because of losing alliance, we could still go under one clan and occupy our maps. It would just kill off the small clans that hold buildings.
 
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@Highway didnt say that what he showed will be 100%, but asked for feedback. in the reply about new concept
And I gave my feedback about the consequences of what I think is going to what happen, but here you see players trying to neglect my feedback as invalid, and pushing for radical reforms.

I haven't received any reaction or comment from Developers about my Main Feedback #380.

@Highway clearly said that about showing who has the most fame or not will be still discussed, so instead of stating that he is promoting, just say that you dont like it and same about rest things.
Does it make a difference what style of address I use? As far as I am concerned, having it combined with some reforms will push into catastrophic consequences, and a chance of having it is still as concerning as actually stating that it will be added.

The point here is to write my feedback about if it actually implemented. And that's all I have to say about that.

i dont know where you would be able to store enough fame to overcome somebody in high election places, at least on eu2 nobody saves fame in clan inventory or in his warehouse for gov or sheriff elections as it is nonsense, i think similar situation is on eu3.
Have you checked the other mentioned reforms?
  • Fame will not wear out over time.
  • Fame will not be shown to other players.
You don't even need big warehouse anymore to do the same thing people before 2016 big list of changes update could do.
 

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as i saw highway didnt say anything about deadline being removed, so current deadlines like for gov 4,5 days or sheriff 7 days will stay anyway i guess
There's no purpose of Deadline if we can't know who joined. That's common sense and easy thing to assume.
 

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ask for this information directly from the highway, I also want to know what the changes are in order to give a sincere and grounded opinion.
Read the last words Highway wrote in your quote. Then read my own words.
before any of this step foot in our live servers



But what chaos and anarchy? Is each clan following your interests? Or are you just afraid of losing a big alliance?
Fighting non-ending war for dominance, ensuring that your own members don't invest their well and hard earned fame in vain by seizing everything. And yes, not trusting your own allies as well as your rivals, leaving no room to reasoning or establishing an environment where peace can exist.

there are so many that I don't even know, you can say
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Here also you don't need to do, i have friends that never buyed gold on the game and that didn't stoped them from play of course they have different objetives but still with the current system of clan fame is possible (and there were many) a player that winned rex without spend any of its money buying gold xd
Your opinion is based on what you are seeing now, not what is going to happen in the next update and all the points Highway mentioned.

Disclaimer: Promises of further and separated updates that haven't been mentioned doesn't count and shouldn't be an element of consideration. Because who knows what really is going to happen. I discuss what I see and can work with, not hoping for dream that might never come.

If these changes are applied while nothing change about the original game play whatsoever, then everyone will need to purchase gold coins, because none will be willing to waste their money on gambles that doesn't serve them.

Ever seen someone in the casino giving his friend money and telling him bid by it and don't care if you lose it? Right now it is more like a charity, but it the future that won't be the case.
 

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Does it make a difference what style of address I use? As far as I am concerned, having it combined with some reforms will push into catastrophic consequences, and a chance of having it is still as concerning as actually stating that it will be added.
unfortunately rumors that rex will be purchasable just with gc spread easily, so it really matters. for me word "promoting" seems to think that you think what you said will be for 100%, but not just feedback, there will be for 100% ppl who wont read all feedback or will understand it in wrong way and spread rumors
 

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Have you checked the other mentioned reforms?
  • Fame will not wear out over time.
  • Fame will not be shown to other players.
You don't even need big warehouse anymore to do the same thing people before 2016 big list of changes update could do.
i have checked and im fine with that, but ofc after applying for election i think it would be better if fame would be visible in election place in town hall
 

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Your opinion is based on what you are seeing now, not what is going to happen in the next update and all the points Highway mentioned.
Then your opinion is also invalid because you don't want this because the current situation on your specific server and also on the current game system. Instead when that point about players that doesn't need gold still could play would not be change because i don't see dino storm becoming a licensing or battle pass game, and also the thig about players without having gold still would happend unless they return to the individual fame, another options such as example a porcentage to the clan and another to the player still allow that.
 

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unfortunately rumors that rex will be purchasable just with gc spread easily, so it really matters. for me word "promoting" seems to think that you think what you said will be for 100%, but not just feedback, there will be for 100% ppl who wont read all feedback or will understand it in wrong way and spread rumors
Knowledge is Power, if they have doubts, they can ask, and receive an answer by Developers or at least GMs in either Forum or Game itself.
 

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I cant be in germany and pay 100€ for 20k gold and an brazilian or whatever pay 12€ for 20k u joking ? And u want wars do u think what u doing right now ? Stop acting and stop do what u doing go focus on maps and make game look cooler instead of make us angry and lose hopes
 

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i have checked and im fine with that, but ofc after applying for election i think it would be better if fame would be visible in election place in town hall
Fame invested? or total fame your opponent has in stock?
 

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if you use 1 long-life gel, just which lasts 1h (A class) then you would need just 6 supplies for 24 hours. better show numbers which really show the reality. idk who still doesnt use gel before supplying towers, maybe just new player who doesnt have towers at all.
So by ur brain smart guy we will wait our gates go 20% so every kid will be abale to get the gate ? And steal the fame bcz there is gels? Gels are for war to full suply fast
 
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