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Ever seen someone in the casino giving his friend money and telling him bid by it and don't care if you lose it? Right now it is more like a charity, but it the future that won't be the case.
I don't see the problem here when this currently happend on dominant clans specially on leaders and where more is noticed is when they lose the control without that player wining the election, and nobody care or complain about that xd
 

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Then your opinion is also invalid because you don't want this because the current situation on your specific server and also on the current game system.
And your opinion is bias, because unlike you, I didn't push for reforms that is going to effect everyone, not just me or those who matters to me. I push for a free-gameplay where everyone can choose their own style. If they want total war, they can have that, and if they want stable foundation for peace, it should be allowed too.
 

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Fame invested? or total fame your opponent has in stock?
idk if i understood this questions, but what i meant was all invested fame, if player is on first place then all his invested should be shown.
i got what you were talking about saying players can save fame - they would collect fame, but invest needed amount only at the end of the election, so its quite valid point to be considered. maybe showing invested and owned amount of fame of players who applied to the election maybe should be :unsure:
 

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idk if i understood this questions, but what i meant was all invested fame, if player is on first place then all his invested should be shown.
i got what you were talking about saying players can save fame - they would collect fame, but invest needed amount only at the end of the election, so its quite valid point to be considered. maybe showing invested and owned amount of fame of players who applied to the election maybe should be :unsure:
Slejd do u have gova or rex man ?
 

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I cant be in germany and pay 100€ for 20k gold and an brazilian or whatever pay 12€ for 20k u joking ? And u want wars do u think what u doing right now ? Stop acting and stop do what u doing go focus on maps and make game look cooler instead of make us angry and lose hopes
€ 1.00 = R$ 6.50, am i a joke to you?
 

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Slejd do u have gova or rex man ?
Or u are a kid thirsty for election and go act like this and if after get harder u will come and cry to back it as it was ?
 

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So by ur brain smart guy we will wait our gates go 20% so every kid will be abale to get the gate ? And steal the fame bcz there is gels? Gels are for war to full suply fast
what you are talking about?? long - life gel is useful when you use it before supplying towers and A class gel (which lats 1h) is easily obtained either by hunting or just buying with 1 gc, the rest are harder to get but at same time more risky to use in peaceful time, on wars ofc B and C classes are most useful. when you have used it you can supply towers with higher % not minding if it is war or not. as i have seen on both eu2 and eu3 servers if players are online, they wait for towers to get down to ~65% and then they supply, that you use them only during war is your bad choice
 

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idk if i understood this questions, but what i meant was all invested fame, if player is on first place then all his invested should be shown.
Ok, so what are you going to do if you have invested in election with for example 1 million fame, and a random opponent that you don't know who he is invested with 10k fame, then with 30 seconds before the evalution period ends, he have invested with 1 million fame, and now have in total 1.01M fame while you have only 1M and you lose office and 75% of the invested fame, and you receive around 250K fame?
 

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Slejd do u have gova or rex man ?
i do and i talked about it before and if you think that i wont care about elections, you would be wrong because since there will be exclusive store i will try to get tokens in any way
 

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U try what now ? U see all upseat and voting won on no so what u now ? U will force the updeat bcz 60 kids that do troubles in servers and they dont give them elections bcz they steal and do bad things will come and say and love the updeat of course till if is worst will come cry also make it how it was ?
 

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i do and i talked about it before and if you think that i wont care about elections, you would be wrong because since there will be exclusive store i will try to get tokens in any way
So u care for ur tokens ego things bcz u have rex welll at least some lesders and rexes think for the next ones also not ourselfs
 

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Ok, so what are you going to do if you have invested in election with for example 1 million fame, and a random opponent that you don't know who he is invested with 10k fame, then with 30 seconds before the evalution period ends, he have invested with 1 million fame, and now have in total 1.01M fame while you have only 1M and you lose office and 75% of the invested fame, and you receive around 250K fame?
im not sure if you checked the second part but there i agreed that it should be considered that maybe both owned fame and invested fame would be shown and i too agreed before that receiving back 25% of fame is too less
 

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maybe showing invested and owned amount of fame of players who applied to the election maybe should be :unsure:
Or just show the name of the clan whose member is competing with your own member, so that you can seize what they have, reducing how much their member have, and increasing how much your member have. (If you prefer War) or you can just speak to the leader of that clan and tell him to talk to his member to leave the office, and solve the situation through diplomacy (If you prefer peace).
 

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So u care for ur tokens ego things bcz u have rex welll at least some lesders and rexes think for the next ones also not ourselfs
i care too, i have some in-game friends who cant afford elections bcs monopolists took the server and it seems for me you are drunk or either your english or translator are bad
 

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well, in this case, this is called laziness
lmfao i'm lazy because i don't want to worry about fame again as the endgame when i already got my rex almost 4 years ago? ok buddy.
 

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And your opinion is bias, because unlike you, I didn't push for reforms that is going to effect everyone, not just me or those who matters to me. I push for a free-gameplay where everyone can choose their own style. If they want total war, they can have that, and if they want stable foundation for peace, it should be allowed too.
The reforms are maked by devs not by me, and also you aren't thinking on the players from your server that want fame, elections and war if you don't like that then play with protection and left them to have the zones. Also the total peace is imposible because is imposible to like to everyone, the problem rigth now is that is imposible to go against a bigger alliance as must happend on your eu1 and ame1 so enemy players endup leaving. Is that fair? Is that free to play when your alliance spend tons of gold having maps?. I don't see any difference on your argument to those that wants rex to be free xd
 

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Or just show who the name of the clan whose member is competing with your own member, so that you can seize what they have, reducing how much their member have, and increasing how much your member have. (If you prefer War) or you can just speak to the leader of that clan and tell him to talk to his member to leave the office, and solve the situation through diplomacy (If you prefer peace).
if showing then i think it would be better to show the actual player, not a clan. maybe player who applied for elections may not want to tell that he did join and i think there would be no way to discover who joined, unless adding something what would show for clanmates who joined which election
 

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So u care for ur tokens ego things bcz u have rex welll at least some lesders and rexes think for the next ones also not ourselfs
That is the function of the tokens and your store, whether or not you have a rex, will keep you active to get the items available in the store and their updates.
 

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Read the last words Highway wrote in your quote. Then read my own words.
This is a preview of what you want to change, of course there will be a test and refinement before reaching the live servers, as well as previous updates, this is just the first step for more superficial feedbacks. You speak as if you were going to be implanted the way it is written there, I cannot understand this type of reasoning. @Highway if possible I would like you to intervene here, showing your intentions in relation to the issues discussed and if you can show us the changes that you failed to present, as this discussion does not lead anywhere.
 

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Well look, making the elections like that it wont help the players , it will only lead to wars which some servers arent interested for that. I know dinostorm is a ''war game'' but pls, being in a war in this game doesnt mean only shooting. U have to buy supplies, to make dds and actually sit on the chair playing for hours and days. Also lets be honest most players here cant afford such a thing, it might give some money at first but then u will see that players will stop playing. No only because the wars are going to be unstoppable but also players who worked hard will lose elections without even noticing it. It would be unfair to apply for the same office again and again and at the end the only thing u get is failure. Plus lets add the fact that clans have around 80 members, for a clan it would be hard to boost just 1 person for one election because the right hands and leaders wont be sure if someone is coming for a block. The whole thing is just making it unfair for other members as well, cuz basically they will have to boost a huge amount of fame for elections like sheriff and governor
 

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or you can just speak to the leader of that clan and tell him to talk to his member to leave the office, and solve the situation through diplomacy (If you prefer peace).
I can't believe I read this :facepalm:
 

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if showing then i think it would be better to show the actual player, not a clan. maybe player who applied for elections may not want to tell that he did join and i think there would be no way to discover who joined, unless adding something what would show for clanmates who joined which election
The clan leader/Right hands can see who from his members joined which election to help them with fame.

But everyone else should see the clan name alone, to keep the suspense and the direction Devs aimed to establish. all while keeping another direction we prefer, which is a place for reasoning and compromise.
 

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Well, to avoid constant wars a serious solution (at least for me), that the trips / claims now take into account the state of production (the system that allows you to see the amount of investment of fame), a system that exists but does not is taken into account.
I mean the status system of: low, medium, high, excellent.

Evidently, this system must be taken into account more and it should be more effective, the higher the production status, the greater the production of articles of a claim / portal, and the lower it is, the less production there will be.

If the "null" status is added, this would allow portals with this status not to generate articles, with this status it would be possible to maintain and strategically control the claims of a map, thus, it would be possible to avoid continuous wars /total server alliance between clans. It will also avoid the excess of objects from a tower; if you don't want a massive war, just leave 2 portals with good status.

To increase the status items will be needed (from games buildigns, new supply etc).

@Highway And another thing that developers need to keep in mind is: Not only letting the new "game buildings" format be the sole source of fame, you must earn fame through clothing (but no wear), special events, events that generate token stores, common missions, etc.

I know perfectly well that there may be a problem about the dominant clans and that the small clans cannot do anything, but it is not necessary to attack, there should be other alternatives.
 
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The same people who are currently in great alliances, change my mind.
I agree with you actually, but don't you see that at least 80% of Dino storm players are members of great alliances? Yet not all of them agree with me.
 

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Our main two big problems are:

  • How can we keep the peace.
  • How can we afford war.
The first haven't been considered by developer but actually hammered on so hard to make it impossible. There must be a way to reach a compromise. You can make it more tempting & desirable to have a war, but you shouldn't remove peace from the equation.

The second wasn't mentioned or considered by Developers, but now it is mentioned by us "The community" so this update must not be implemented before this issue is also tackled.
 
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