Its also about i want to hold as many builds as possible so one i have beef with cannot have any alongside it.(they want more than 1-2 builds so number increases)
but won't that make the original defending alliance have the upper hand again?
by "smaller clans" u mean like 2-5 players? bcs 10-20 players can take 1 gate and try to fight also buff will help them, but @Highway then again, that 1 clan vs bigger clans cant compete bcs multiple attacker clans can kill defenders, thats what we were complaining about attackers can have useful allies
they didn't even think about it, they didn't even think about the fact that now every conflict will be such that in every gate 0 fame (yes, go add update what destroy absolutely fame by gates, hi mining, clothing), would be better if an optimization update came out than that's all, I don't understand how it was possible to make this system in 1-2 years, and then introduce it on live, after making sure that it doesn't work correctly enough, but now we get updates that take 1 step forward and 2 steps back, I'm really angry that pvp in this game has stopped being fun, optimization, balance changes that are too bold in my opinion, as well as gate gameplay also does not work now, it was not fun and so it is now, but now the number of phases has also been reduced
well as some other servers like to mention all the time outside of yapping about eu1 is that the attackers are not always smaller sometimes they can be even equal force even on eu1 attackers can gether up betwene 15 to 20 players are they not capable of defending a single gate if defending is oh so easy? shouldnt be a problem then or is it perhaps that they do not like to be at the receiving end of a multi clan attack?
Totally agreed. Attackers will have to do twice the amount of work.
"Fake" attackers can be more numerous, so it could still result in a trade of sorts(although it's rare). But certainly better than the current system.
But in any case, it will again be advantageous to join large alliances, as the attack force will not be impeded by any buff.
isnt this easily exploitable
thats why its hard to mess with buff without it going into too exploitable mode so to say
And how exactly would effort be measured?
It’s disappointing that when I mentioned that issue your only reply was that it’s irrelevant if attackers had allies
One way to exploit this effect: Clan X attacks the portal with 3 attackers, and the allied Clan Y attacks with 2 attackers. Two members of Clan X quickly leave the zone, and Clan Y gains the buff for 10 seconds. With 5 seconds remaining for Clan Y's buff to end, Clan X leaves the portal again, and so on.
Not all attackers have the possibility
it was all always about numbers especialy in the old system that people cry here for every single day so it returns especialy there it was all about numbers anyone who says something else is a lair i was in many wars and not as a member of an alliance at the time every single one of these wars was won by the side with more people it always have been there was no variability to it just because you and your friends could drain at 3 am doesnt mean you won a war attackers are benefiting from the numbers game now especialy so why not give them a taste of their own medicine if they can all band togethere and single out any target then everyone else will now be able to band togethere on them during the needed defence because im sorry little timmy but your life as a free raider that just walks in takes a gate in 4 minutes cashes out fame and leaves will be gone now your need to put up a bit of effort into thisBut in any case, it will again be advantageous to join large alliances, as the attack force will not be impeded by any buff.
The side with more players will once again have a lot of advantage, especially in attack and as it will be mandatory to defend to gain fame, it will be simple for a large alliance to come together to prevent their enemies from gaining fame
Measurement is the same that would determine the final winner of the reclaim. The overall top clan that drained the most.
It could also be measured by the currently top drainer, but that leads to the situation you described. Because of that the overall effort is taken. There are possibly some loopholes remaing though.
Yes I can feel you, but partly it is still irrelevant when the attacker clans unites into a single clan for an attack and bring more players than the defender into combat. But the change of the buff activation will certainly help if clans remain seperated.It’s disappointing that when I mentioned that issue your only reply was that it’s irrelevant if attackers had allies
But now that attackers need to defend, apparently “attackers” shouldn’t have allies after all
neublon always been giving feedback and suggestions not caring for any side so telling him to stop pretending isnt so nice
kick ur dead player base in the clan, i doubt u have so many players active and complaining about defending
So whoever didn't agree with the change, does that mean that person wants to take portals easily?
what u saying has nothng to do with i said, i said draining and capturing is easy compared to actually fighting for a gate aka defendingSo whoever didn't agree with the change, does that mean that person wants to take portals easily?
im not pretending at all if anything both sides members that want advantages for themselfs dislike me especialy old gate system enjoyers but despite that im trying to suggest balanced things and having both sides experience the gate system from both ways seems as balanced as can be and if your attacker clan is so extremely outnumbered by your enemy maybe you shouldnt expect to be a conqueror but more of a raider at most you cant expect to win extremely disadvatageous battles also just a little detail for all the none eu1 forum members here even my servers very famous "small" attacker and forum warior group has 36+ lvl 50+ members in the main clan and 50 with their allies so idk but that seems like enough to protect a few gates to me if they wanted to actualy put up some effort but we can see they dont
I didnt complain about defending at all in this specific thread last i checked and it doesnt change the fact that 80 wouldnt be enough if we went all one clan vs whole eu1 alliance at same time even then lags would be insane with so many players at same place because thats how this game is have too many players at same time on yourself and you have lag.kick ur dead player base in the clan, i doubt u have so many players active and complaining about defending
