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The new update is a disaster. Fame not to be collected if after you took 1 gate you won't defend it. Not sure if you really now but the ratio has a huge difference in numbers between big alliances and attackers. Therefore, the attackers are forced to use guerilla warfare tactics which implies taking what they can when they can and forcing the enemy not to get the fame. The whole point in draining is to take what's in the buildings and prevent the enemy to have it. With the new defend thing you prevent us(the minority if I might say it) not only not to take the fame whats in the buildings FOR WHICH WE FIGHT FOR but we're not able to farm for it(same reasons, we as attackers have an entire server against us). I repeat. This is a disaster. You(game devs) need to return at the previous one which included 1AM and 7AM attack phases(i can't quit my job just to be online on 3 attack phases but I can be online for the 1AM and 7AM for example). With the new "update" you basically take away my chances to attack. You need NOT to change the current getting the fame from a building after it's been drained thing. Otherwise all you did is totally useless. Live long and prosper.
this whole paragraph is meaningless fyi

i suggest logging on ptr and seeing the updates bcs u claimed about a ratio from alliances meanwhile the update clearly says the buff will be limited to a clan vs clan. meaning u can defend if u can capture, if u cant means the attacker clan is stronger than u / or captured more than u can handle on the previous phase ;)

por favor stop writing here without testing the update on ptr :D
 
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this whole paragraph is meaningless fyi

i suggest logging on ptr and seeing the updates bcs u claimed about a ratio from alliances meanwhile the update clearly says the buff will be limited to a clan vs clan. meaning u can defend if u can capture, if u cant means the attacker clan is stronger than u / or captured more than u can handle on the previous phase ;)

por favor stop writing here without testing the update on ptr :D
already did. YOU CANNOT test this on ptr as you can test it on a live server in real conditions. on ptr you will have 2-3 against you. on a live server you will have the whole server. before assuming things stop 1 second and think. Live long and prosper
 

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already did. YOU CANNOT test this on ptr as you can test it on a live server in real conditions. on ptr you will have 2-3 against you. on a live server you will have the whole server. before assuming things stop 1 second and think. Live long and prosper
eu1 as usual complaining about everything and anything jajajaja

u guys claim to have 20+ attackers.
u guys claimed the alliance clans to have an average of 5 defenders.

dont come here telling me u cant win against one of their clans in that case bcs even right now u take gates, u dont defend bcs u have multiple clans against u, but with this update it will be just 1 clan against ur clan, if u can take but cant defend then u are not just weak but also a liar for sending fake numbers on forum ;)

i dont think u understand the meaning of a buff limited to one clan vs another clan and thats it bcs u still saying "against a full server"
 
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eu1 clowns as usual complaining about everything and anything jajajaja

u guys claim to have 20+ attackers.
u guys claimed the alliance clans to have an average of 5 defenders.

dont come here telling me u cant win against one of their clans in that case bcs even right now u take gates, u dont defend bcs u have multiple clans against u, but with this update it will be just 1 clan against ur clan, if u can take but cant defend then u are not just weak but also a liar for sending fake numbers on forum ;)

i dont think u understand the meaning of a buff limited to one clan vs another clan and thats it bcs u still saying "against a full server"
1. don't insult. be civilised. this thread is to post feedback not ur uncivilised way of approaching a problem. 2. if you don't like my opinion is ok. you can move on.
 

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1. don't insult. be civilised. this thread is to post feedback not ur uncivilised way of approaching a problem. 2. if you don't like my opinion is ok. you can move on.
its not the first time u come complain abt somethng without actually testing and @Faye actually dealt with this once before

ur complaint has no sense at all, u just asking for help at this point
 

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its not the first time u come complain abt somethng without actually testing and @Faye actually dealt with this once before

ur complaint has no sense at all, u just asking for help at this point
ok. i will repeat this for you to understand. ALREADY TESTED THIS. ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE PTR VS LIVE SERVER. stop provoking. stop insulting.
 

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I faced a small issue of npc evading while attacking.
I got attacked by a smilo but I cannot attack it back cuz it shows the target is evading.
Is this a problem on my end?
 

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If i managed to get a enemy great gate at 200% (1 count held) I cant take all the medals after successfully drainining it?
 

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If i managed to get a enemy great gate at 200% (1 count held) I cant take all the medals after successfully drainining it?
I already said scenario for 400% gate and it was said as yes by devs so any yield medals are kept if you manage to defend it for one phase but if you fail all that fame is lost.
 

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thats wild.....
 

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@Highway, any PVP/PVE elements still to come since.... there is 15hrs+ protected phase.....

- Every 2hrs...a PVE/PVP quest will be created by a special quest giver in either of the 5 maps

- Top right banner will notify players about the "event"

- Capture a certain amount (10 gemstone for example) across all the maps players will need to scatter and find the item to pass it to the quest giver.

Gem stone that is picked by another player can be dropped like dd.... and the other player could pick it up to quickly rush to the quest giver.... kind of like a capture the flag concept.... rewards, could be potent booster, few set of kits, dino dollars that could enter clan inventory after that certain clan win (passing 10 gem) to the quest giver.

With this idea hopefully it can.... give people who had no opportunity to play the conflict phase wars something to motivate to login. and also improve overall activity outside of conflict phase :)
 

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Was I wrong or is it not yet implemented that whoever drains the most the tower will get the adrenaline buff above another attacker?
 

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Was I wrong or is it not yet implemented that whoever drains the most the tower will get the adrenaline buff above another attacker?
Top draining clan, not who drained the most

Basically if you have 1 gate and you’re defending it, only one clan which is draining the most will take the attacker buff. If another clan walks in and more drainers came in than the other clan, they’ll take the buff instead (from what I understood)
 
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eu1 clowns as usual complaining about everything and anything jajajaja

u guys claim to have 20+ attackers.
u guys claimed the alliance clans to have an average of 5 defenders.

dont come here telling me u cant win against one of their clans in that case bcs even right now u take gates, u dont defend bcs u have multiple clans against u, but with this update it will be just 1 clan against ur clan, if u can take but cant defend then u are not just weak but also a liar for sending fake numbers on forum ;)

i dont think u understand the meaning of a buff limited to one clan vs another clan and thats it bcs u still saying "against a full server"
1720271186871.png also you should update on your forum profile with your in game name and all instead of posting from a fake profile(checked on america2 as your profile states and all)
 

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View attachment 48301 also you should update on your forum profile with your in game name and all instead of posting from a fake profile(checked on america2 as your profile states and all)
What is he doing it's his business not yours tho.
I mean about profile etc.
 

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Why didn’t you point it out when your friends were using alts on forum to flood the threads? Or you like to play hero when someone is basically spitting facts and you’ve got nothing to say
who was using fake accounts/alts? if i spot something i will point it out mate. rules are rules for everybody not only for a side or another. anyway we are slowly digressing from the main point here. from my point of view after i went on PTR and experimented, this new update is not good at all and instead of bringing something to help the smaller clans it benefits the big alliances.
 

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who was using fake accounts/alts? if i spot something i will point it out mate. rules are rules for everybody not only for a side or another. anyway we are slowly digressing from the main point here. from my point of view after i went on PTR and experimented, this new update is not good at all and instead of bringing something to help the smaller clans it benefits the big alliances.
Alright back on topic.

May you explain to us all how the next update is helping big alliances and not small clans? If third-parties are generally becoming useless, and you’re gonna be fighting only one clan instead of multiples, how does this affect you exactly?
 

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Alright back on topic.

May you explain to us all how the next update is helping big alliances and not small clans? If third-parties are generally becoming useless, and you’re gonna be fighting only one clan instead of multiples, how does this affect you exactly?
its all related to defending, right? you as a small clan cannot hope to defend buildings against huge clans as the situation is on eu1(yes because i play there mostly and i dont care about ppl bla bla about this). nd before contradicting me, if eu1 alliance which is big cannot defend against us how can we defend against them? its logical
 

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its all related to defending, right? you as a small clan cannot hope to defend buildings against huge clans as the situation is on eu1(yes because i play there mostly and i dont care about ppl bla bla about this). nd before contradicting me, if eu1 alliance which is big cannot defend against us how can we defend against them? its logical
I don’t care either about those who come here to yap about eu1 always writing as if we hold anyone from doing so

Your point is yet understandable, but before this you were taking fame with the least efforts (yes it's the truth), and now not doing anything because basically the alliance is swapping the maps, and your successes dropped by a huge number.

The update won’t just solve the swapping issue but will also force a clan vs clan gameplay, when you’re attacking you should focus on taking sites depending on how many defenders you usually can have, you can’t take 5 sites without having a minimum of 10-15 defenders on every conflict phase for example (keep in mind we talk about eu1 numbers)
If your clan has about 10 players, then taking 1-2 sites would be your best option, investing 83k dds to upgrade the site to tier 4 will also help you a lot.

The clan which you choose to attack will probably lose their site(s) if they don’t have defenders online but that doesn’t mean you won anything, on the upcoming phase you will need to defend against that or another clan, and it will be you vs them, if you hold means you won and you had a stronger force, if you lost means they were simply stronger than your force.

And however if you can take but can’t hold even 1 site then you simply aren’t able to compete against clans which have been existing since over 10 years in the server, but as eu1 attackers claimed to have a strong force then I believe you should plan out together (remember eu1 has 4 attacking clans as we speak) do your discussions and work together as you were already doing then we’ll see from there how this plays out.
 

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I don’t care either about those who come here to yap about eu1 always writing as if we hold anyone from doing so

Your point is yet understandable, but before this you were taking fame with the least efforts (yes it's the truth), and now not doing anything because basically the alliance is swapping the maps, and your successes dropped by a huge number.

The update won’t just solve the swapping issue but will also force a clan vs clan gameplay, when you’re attacking you should focus on taking sites depending on how many defenders you usually can have, you can’t take 5 sites without having a minimum of 10-15 defenders on every conflict phase for example (keep in mind we talk about eu1 numbers)
If your clan has about 10 players, then taking 1-2 sites would be your best option, investing 83k dds to upgrade the site to tier 4 will also help you a lot.

The clan which you choose to attack will probably lose their site(s) if they don’t have defenders online but that doesn’t mean you won anything, on the upcoming phase you will need to defend against that or another clan, and it will be you vs them, if you hold means you won and you had a stronger force, if you lost means they were simply stronger than your force.

And however if you can take but can’t hold even 1 site then you simply aren’t able to compete against clans which have been existing since over 10 years in the server, but as eu1 attackers claimed to have a strong force then I believe you should plan out together (remember eu1 has 4 attacking clans as we speak) do your discussions and work together as you were already doing then we’ll see from there how this plays out.
this update should be as game devs stated to help the smaller clans against the huge alliances. now i am asking. is it ? nope
 

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this update should be as game devs stated to help the smaller clans against the huge alliances. now i am asking. is it ? nope
How is it not helping you?

If you're able to take gates against an alliance (which you couldn't in the past or not like nowadays at least) only difference now is that you need to put more efforts into taking the reward

Keep in mind before this update, you needed to invest gold coins to buy supply charges in order to attack to still earn nothing in return, because the fame inside the building used to get reset. Now you have a chance to collect it, but you need a little extra efforts to do so.
 

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How is it not helping you?

If you're able to take gates against an alliance (which you couldn't in the past or not like nowadays at least) only difference now is that you need to put more efforts into taking the reward

Keep in mind before this update, you needed to invest gold coins to buy supply charges in order to attack to still earn nothing in return, because the fame inside the building used to get reset. Now you have a chance to collect it, but you need a little extra efforts to do so.
keep it in mind that i can afford to buy gold coins
 
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