Feedback Wanted: Site Conflict Adjustments Part 2

[RetroRevolution]

@Highway is ptr opening any time soon sowe test it?

 

[Alewx]

@Highway is ptr opening any time soon sowe test it?

Working on it, fixing some things before we send it public.

 

[xx-predator-xx]

perhaps offtopic question but it is game related. is it possible for game devs to move the game from java(which is currently used) to unreal engine 5?

 

[Alewx]

perhaps offtopic question but it is game related. is it possible for game devs to move the game from java(which is currently used) to unreal engine 5?

Nope not at all, that is a complete rewrite of just about everything. And just because unreal looks nice doesn't mean it is nice to work with.

 

[xx-predator-xx]

Nope not at all, that is a complete rewrite of just about everything. And just because unreal looks nice doesn't mean it is nice to work with.

I have worked with it it is hard but rewarding as well. And it doesn't just look nice but improve the game as a whole. ANyway sorry if this seems as off topic. Live long and prosper.

 

[Alewx]

I have worked with it it is hard but rewarding as well. And it doesn't just look nice but improve the game as a whole. ANyway sorry if this seems as off topic. Live long and prosper.

You can improve things but you can also cause a lot more trouble c++ contains a bit more traps.
Peace and long life.
But yeah offtopic

 

[Nebulon Galaxus]

We would think how extending the adrenaline buff time to lets say, 60 seconds. How will it affect game play in good and bad way?

i feel like this could be completely disastrous in some scenarios

scenario 1: defenders are approaching an attacked site just to be met by a direct counter attack from attackers forcing them into close range fight juiced up on the buff their either kill all the defenders before they even reach the circle to get a buff too or put them into such a disadvantage that they already lost (defenders need to take the buff to deal damage)

scenario 2: lets imagine clan A owns the last 5 buildings in mm and is attacked by clan B now for the entire duration of the fight anybody and i mean anybody from any other clan has 0 chance of even entering the area since they will get runned down by invincible enemies whos buff lasts 5 decades if they slap on full endu set and use coelo their reach near 3k endurance (1280 base lvl 55 coelo endu + 810 endu from implant + 120 (rought estimate) x 6 q10 endu cloths = 2810 endu) they would be fast enough to get betwene two different buildings without the buff going off this would not reduce effects of 3rd party clans this would absolutely murder them like no one could farm in the whole area as long as these gates are attacked if they had the buff for so long this scenario applies to when someone wanted some buff zones around gates as well like this would just make the entire attacked area inaccesible to anyone without protection which i see as wrong its way too limiting to what can someone do during the phases not to mention server enemies could block everyone from that part of the map besides the site owner this way and they can attack all gates to make each part survivable for only specific clans i think it should have stayed 10 seconds

 

[Alewx]

scenario 1: defenders are approaching an attacked site just to be met by a direct counter attack from attackers forcing them into close range fight juiced up on the buff their either kill all the defenders before they even reach the circle to get a buff too or put them into such a disadvantage that they already lost (defenders need to take the buff to deal damage)

The conflict phase is widly visible, why are the defenders not on site to protect it but rather somewhere else, so that they have to get there? the attackers are prepared at site to attack why the defenders not?

 

[SPA]

You can improve things but you can also cause a lot more trouble c++ contains a bit more traps.
Peace and long life.
But yeah offtopic

however, are there any plans to fix the batlecry someday? I would insert a meme on this situation, everyone understands this situation

 

[Alewx]

however, are there any plans to fix the batlecry someday? I would insert a meme on this situation, everyone understands this situation

what is broken at it?

 

[NazzaFire]

Locking medals for 1 conflict phase , its a problem for small clans

 

[SPA]

what is broken at it?

scared targets must run in a certain direction while the effect is in effect, however, often using batlecry, when you apply the effect, the target does not run, but teleports to the place he was supposed to run at the expiration of the effect, as well as skills are not used at this moment sometimes, besides now it is even impossible to predict at what time the place your target ran with this bug, because before the target ran along the trajectory from you, now only to where there is more space, sometimes you can't even predict where, I described the case when, with this bug, players try to predicate to follow a scared target (the target teleports where the target was supposed to run until the end of the batlecry effect)

 

[Highway]

scared targets must run in a certain direction while the effect is in effect, however, often using batlecry, when you apply the effect, the target does not run, but teleports to the place he was supposed to run at the expiration of the effect, as well as skills are not used at this moment sometimes, besides now it is even impossible to predict at what time the place your target ran with this bug, because before the target ran along the trajectory from you, now only to where there is more space, sometimes you can't even predict where, I described the case when, with this bug, players try to predicate to follow a scared target (the target teleports where the target was supposed to run until the end of the batlecry effect)

Sounds like a packet loss in the network layer that the move command was not received by the client

 

[DarkMyth.]

The conflict phase is widly visible, why are the defenders not on site to protect it but rather somewhere else, so that they have to get there? the attackers are prepared at site to attack why the defenders not?

It’s common sense to have defenders ready on sites but let’s say you have 2-4 sites more or less, and you have around 15 available defenders, you send them to sit around on sites but if the same number of attackers spawned on a site they will kill the defenders and start their attack, meaning defenders will be coming to that site from another, I guess that’s what he meant. Attackers spawn in a big group together, defenders should be split depending how many sites they hold to be on watch in case an enemy comes.

 

[Orochii]

It would be interesting to move the position of this box outside the portal area. Depending on the enemy's position, if I use the battle cry, it collides with the box and I can't remove it from the zone.

 

[Nebulon Galaxus]

The conflict phase is widly visible, why are the defenders not on site to protect it but rather somewhere else, so that they have to get there? the attackers are prepared at site to attack why the defenders not?

thats a walid question and let me give my answear i believe it could be similar to the scenario i mentioned at the start of my numbers feedback lets say we have a 5 gates holding clan with 20 defenders active their forces are splited up 4 per gate the phase starts and 15 attackers teleport to one of the sites thats where the 1 minute response timer i astimated before starts its the time it takes the attackers to atomise the defenders there the dead defenders to let the rest know where, and how many enemies there are and then for the rest of the force to regroup somewhere and the dead ones to respawn and then we get to the start of scenario 1

 

[OrionZG]

I continue to insist that the schedule should return as before, just remove the early morning phase and that's it.

 

[Orochii]

The defender is not receiving adrenaline.

 

[Suguygyu]

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The defender is not receiving adrenaline.

Happens for us as well, i guess its a bug

 

[Suguygyu]

This bug counts defender as not a top drainer so doesnt give defender adrenaline buff whenever attacker enters circle but whenever attacker gets out of circle, defender is getting buff normally.

 

[Highway]

Yes its a bug. Will fix it later. Thanks for reporting

 

[..Aerys..]

Just to add up on the Orochi's post. They deffender buff is indeed not working. Tried it for myself and the adrenaline wasn't working (whilist being a deffender). And then tried it on someone else, letting them attack me whithin their build as a deffender.

 

[RetroRevolution]

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The defender is not receiving adrenaline.

yes defender buff doesnt exist on ptr cant deal dmg or anything, i think its fair for live servers :3 (as someone would say)

 

[Highway]

So if a small clan defend for get 3 medals since it is basic now and before even if he took an excellent tower nothing changes for the small clan? I mean it is always 3 medals if he manage to defend in 1 phase?

No the items in the excellent yied site should remain and can be picked up after a successful defend. If not then it is a bug

 

[RetroRevolution]

No the items in the excellent yied site should remain and can be picked up after a successful defend. If not then it is a bug

so basicically if i have a excellent site, i couldnt defend it the items remain inside it and they keep getting stacked up until someone is finally able to hold the site for a complete phase and collect it?

 

[RetroRevolution]

A small clan cannot perform the same actions as a large clan or large alliance to make sure they defend well to get those first medals

if your clan is THAT weak to fight against another clan then u simply cant win against them, and what large alliance? stop writing all this assumptions bcs the buff will force it to be clan vs clan, which means if ur clan cant defend against another clan, means ure weak which is ur problem, no excuse anymore for "small clans" and "big clans" theres always a clan stronger than another in a 1vs1

u capture as much as much as u can defend. dont go capture 4-5 gates then wonder why u cant defend it if ur clan doesnt have defenders to do so

 

[- Leyenda -]

so basicically if i have a excellent site, i couldnt defend it the items remain inside it and they keep getting stacked up until someone is finally able to hold the site for a complete phase and collect it?

I understand that the medals will be destroyed if they pass again to another clan, that is, take a portal of 100 and then defend it. If it is not possible to defend the fame, it would be destroyed along with the fame of the tower of 100.

 

[Highway]

so basicically if i have a excellent site, i couldnt defend it the items remain inside it and they keep getting stacked up until someone is finally able to hold the site for a complete phase and collect it?

It will not stack if the winner of the excllent side can not defend it after as the side is ar basic level

 

[Luka Patajac]

It will not stack if the winner of the excllent side can not defend it after as the side is ar basic level

Ok so if we take excellent yield and manage to defend it we get it stacked if we fail that all fame is gone?

 

[xx-predator-xx]

The new update is a disaster. Fame not to be collected if after you took 1 gate you won't defend it. Not sure if you really now but the ratio has a huge difference in numbers between big alliances and attackers. Therefore, the attackers are forced to use guerilla warfare tactics which implies taking what they can when they can and forcing the enemy not to get the fame. The whole point in draining is to take what's in the buildings and prevent the enemy to have it. With the new defend thing you prevent us(the minority if I might say it) not only not to take the fame whats in the buildings FOR WHICH WE FIGHT FOR but we're not able to farm for it(same reasons, we as attackers have an entire server against us). I repeat. This is a disaster. You(game devs) need to return at the previous one which included 1AM and 7AM attack phases(i can't quit my job just to be online on 3 attack phases but I can be online for the 1AM and 7AM for example). With the new "update" you basically take away my chances to attack. You need NOT to change the current getting the fame from a building after it's been drained thing. Otherwise all you did is totally useless. Live long and prosper.