#14 Endgame Part 3 (Sites Gameplay)

[Pleiadian]

Not necessarily but I don't see how it will be balanced when other means of collecting fame are much more limited. Why is combat fame from clothing only obtainable during one hour? If you could farm combat fame all day, it would come down to the same result as this ore mining, and yet devs have decided that limiting it was the way to move forward.

You are raising some good points.

However, I still do not see your arguments about being active. They could remove the 1-hour limit and just let the players obtain the total fame that their wearables set would otherwise provide them in 4 days, in simply 24 hours, it would simply not match the amount obtained from mining the Claims.

That's just an assumption since we have yet to know the amount that those ores provide.

Because the main source of fame would still be from Sites, secondary would be the Claims, and last the wearables set. That's how I imagine it. That's how it should be structured anyway.

 

[Czarna]

They could remove the 1-hour limit and just let the players obtain the total fame that their wearables set would otherwise provide them in 4 days, in simply 24 hours, it would simply not match the amount obtained from mining the Claims.

What I was trying to say was: while designing the Combat Fame Time mechanic, a decision was made that players would only be able to use it for one hour each day, no matter how active they are. There must have been some kind of reasoning for that decision, perhaps it was deemed overpowered to allow it to scale with how long players are trully active.

Now this new mechanic does the complete opposite. It rewards players for being online as long as possible. It would be the same as re-designing the fame gained from clothes. Imagine if there wasn't a limit and you could farm daily combat fame as much as you wanted, repairing or changing your clothes every 4 hours. And like I mentioned earlier, a decision was made to not allow it to happen and limit the amount of fame that can be gained each day that way. Ore mining does not have such a limit, so it seems unbalanced when compared to current mechanics.

I am not the one to judge if it is better to have the limits in game or not, just making a comparison.

 

[Pleiadian]

Ore mining does not have such a limit, so it seems unbalanced when compared to current mechanics.

That's an overstatement since we have yet to see it at play. They can still change these variables on the fly to balance it out compared to other methods of obtaining fame.

 

[OrionZG]

In this case, wouldn't it be better if the mining feature only occurred during attack hours? Staying glued to the mines 24/7 can't possibly be sustainable for anyone, both in attack and defense.

Players request pvp content outside of the protection phase, don't ask for something that isn't necessary.

 

[Mania]

i'm gonna be honest, everything about these most recent updates feels so overly complicated for no reason.

 

[yewhuiyuan]

Will there be any special bandits to fight with . I suggest the use of those armored bandit you guys had in the wallpaper when farming the ore

 

[OrionZG]

Will there be any special bandits to fight with . I suggest the use of those armored bandit you guys had in the wallpaper when farming the ore

This new mine mechanic was supposed to have bandits, but apparently they will be added later.

 

[yewhuiyuan]

The new mechanic is integrating with the "Held by Dinoville" site logic which is informed by Town Hall activity, which means that the number of sites that are held by Dinoville will not increase through this update!

Does this mean that if a clan keeps holding example at mw and when dv take their gate. DV release a previously owned building as (held by: -). So like a neutral gate.. and like the first conflict phase right after EG3 everyone gotta rush to the point to claim? And whoever drain most of neutral gate get it?

 

[ThiagoXDestruidor]

For those who already have buildings, collecting minerals is something extra for you, why are you complaining about how this would benefit those who already have buildings?

 

[Rockspider19]

Devs, you win.

After tonight's conflict phase, out of our ally of 70+ people, only 7 or so showed up.

Many people have left the game, and for good reason. You cannot force people to play the game at the time you want them to play; it's just not logical.

One of my friends could not find a server with a conflict phase that matched his time zone, so he outright quit the game, and I don't blame him.

Others have decided that losing sleep when they have school/work the next morning is just not worth it and have chosen to stop attending conflict phases altogether.

Playing this game is like playing with the corpse of your dead dog, hoping it will move and be alive again, but it's futile because it's dead and best left buried.

GL, guys. I think I'm out as well.

 

[Pleiadian]

i'm gonna be honest, everything about these most recent updates feels so overly complicated for no reason.

Complicated. Limited. Restrictive.

A perfect description of the first impression of all these changes.

 

[Mania]

Complicated. Limited. Restrictive.

A perfect description of the first impression of all these changes.

trying to reinvent the wheel feels like an apt descriptor here. dinostorm was popular as it was because the concept was simple, easy to grasp, low barrier of entry. max level was 20 when i first started, two maps, multiple instances between maps, only a handful of upgrade items. now the max level is 55, 5 maps, a million upgrade items, questing takes forever, and unlocking what you want takes forever too... it just feels like for a game like this, simple is better. it did suck in some ways but the way things are now it just feels like too much.

 

[S4TW]

i'm gonna be honest, everything about these most recent updates feels so overly complicated for no reason.

I don't think they even read any of the feedbacks here tbh

 

[yewhuiyuan]

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The new mechanic is integrating with the "Held by Dinoville" site logic which is informed by Town Hall activity, which means that the number of sites that are held by Dinoville will not increase through this update!

Does this mean that if a clan keeps holding example at mw and when dv take their gate. DV release a previously owned building as (held by: -). So like a neutral gate.. and like the first conflict phase right after EG3 everyone gotta rush to the point to claim? And whoever drain most of neutral gate get it?

@Highway , can u elaborate more on this?

 

[DarkMyth.]

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@Highway , can u elaborate more on this?

It’s been already explained in previous posts

 

[yewhuiyuan]

It's @ Highway not u

 

[yewhuiyuan]

Any plans to create special bandits to guard those gold ore?

 

[Highway]

Any plans to create special bandits to guard those gold ore?

Yes we are planning that there is a risk that a bandit will spawn when mining ores

 

[Suguygyu]

Yes we are planning that there is a risk that a bandit will spawn when mining ores

Actually there is a bug that will make those spawning bandits useless, i sent ticket about it long time ago maybe year but it didnt get fixed and ticket got closed

 

[Highway]

Actually there is a bug that will make those spawning bandits useless, i sent ticket about it long time ago maybe year but it didnt get fixed and ticket got closed

What is the issue? Ticketnumber would also help.

 

[Suguygyu]

What is the issue? Ticketnumber would also help.

Ticketnumber is RWY-704-63476

The issue is the bug i mentioned can protect player from getting attacked from any alpha for 5 min which is equal to despawn time for bugged alpha.

So with this method, players can mine without getting attacked by bandit, instead other players have to deal with it since bandit cannot aggro to player that used bug. The reason for it there is max number that can attack player which is 2( 4 for smils, enteletons and brontops if i am not mistaken)

 

[Targaryen]

I wish there were more conflict phases, I can't participate in anything due to the Asia 1 time zone

 

[Czarna]

@Highway higher yield buildings are losing and gaining hp slower than lower yield buildings (for example: very good claim is losing -5 from attack, gaining +2 from defense). Was that intended? I didn't see it mentioned in the changelog.

 

[Highway]

Jup its a bug that we hotfx after the conflict is over on asia

 

[Galaxy]

Here is the prepared WIP changelog for next week that did not make it into tomorrow's update:

Bountiful Claims · New Fame Channel for User PVE & PvP!

• Chunks of Gold Ore are now spawning next to Claim sites. These chunks can be mined by all players, as long as they are not using PvP Protection.
  • Mining chunks requires players to have the "Duelist" or "Outlaw" status. If you attempt to mine a Chunk of Gold Ore without having a PvP status yet, you will be greeted with the usual PvP action confirmation window.
  • Mining chunks is achieved simply by interacting with them. Mining a chunk will produce one of the following fame items:
    • Gold Tinsel
    • Gold Nugget
  • Fame items that are obtained by mining Chunks of Gold Ore go directly to the inventory of the player mining the chunk.
• Claim sites can be operated by clans just like before; fame item output is in no way connected to the spawning of Chunks of Gold Ore.
• Like Travel Gates, Claims now produce Standard, Advanced and Elite Medals that clans can collect.
  • This means that less fame is produced in the site itself (just as much as Travel Gates are producing), but if a little time is invested into mining the Chunks of Gold Ore in the direct vicinity of the site, a lot more fame can be earned.

It can really be a reason for players to stay online longer and even give small clans a little fame.
But in terms of "fun" I can't see what it would be like

 

[Pleiadian]

"On days with multiple conflict phases"

Considering the fact that we have only 1 conflict phases per day, what does "multiple conflict phases" refer to here?

If there will even be multiple conflict phases throughout the day, why not just implement that setup at first?

 

[Highway]

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"On days with multiple conflict phases"

Considering the fact that we have only 1 conflict phases per day, what does "multiple conflict phases" refer to here?

If there will even be multiple conflict phases throughout the day, why not just implement that setup at first?

its all there already to setup multiple conflict phases per day. But again we need to evaualte first with one phase and next week the gold mining will come as well on the live servers.

 

[ThiagoXDestruidor]

its all there already to setup multiple conflict phases per day. But again we need to evaualte first with one phase and next week the gold mining will come as well on the live servers.

Once again, the allied clans are draining each other and leaving the maps safe between them. Allow the portal to be attacked during the entire attack phase for 2 hours.

 

[tenten.]

How much 'data' needs to be evaluated for y'all to understand that we're all sick of one single, scheduled attack phase? Literally everyone in this forum is complaining about it.
Yet, it's still out there.

 

[yewhuiyuan]

Once again, the allied clans are draining each other and leaving the maps safe between them. Allow the portal to be attacked during the entire attack phase for 2 hours.

Well this is very hard for devs to balance between super huge alliance doing daily map trades and giving small rebellions to interfere their map trade ... This 1:2 is best they could do instead of 1:4 with 1:4 the ally will swap among themselves within less than 30 mins.. ig now it takes longer so.... Those rebel stand chances...