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DEVS. Hear me out... bring DS Classic. Keep both and see over the span of 4 5 months which becomes more popular and focus on that. i think this game has developed backwards. personaly the level cap was P E R F E C T, the level up experience was more interesting and the maps where sick af. NOTHING about modern ds is better than the old. ppl still main old guns (colt) and carno. this could be a chance to revert to the better and this time do it right. all theese updates bring bloat and dont really touch the core of ds "what we curently need"


Feel free to disagree but thats how i curently feel.
 

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DEVS. Hear me out... bring DS Classic. Keep both and see over the span of 4 5 months which becomes more popular and focus on that. i think this game has developed backwards. personaly the level cap was P E R F E C T, the level up experience was more interesting and the maps where sick af. NOTHING about modern ds is better than the old. ppl still main old guns (colt) and carno. this could be a chance to revert to the better and this time do it right. all theese updates bring bloat and dont really touch the core of ds "what we curently need"


Feel free to disagree but thats how i curently feel.
no, what you ask for is almost impossible because that code is already lost
 

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I have a question... what would be the period of time that the lily emporium will be updated? 1 month? 2 months?
 

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I have a question... what would be the period of time that the lily emporium will be updated? 1 month? 2 months?
updated in what way? they added new items today
 

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@Highway He notado que con la nueva fama que da en "modo combate", Las prendas no duran 4 turnos, Siempre duran 2 turnos y medio, O volveran a mejorar la fama que darán en modo combate para que dure los 4 turnos como se debe?
 

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I guess 2nd endgame update is the least complained big update for the last years
and it is supposed to be the most "controversial" update for several reasons. actually endgame is partly controversial.

But I'm glad that players accept these updates, even many of them are looking forward to endgame 3.

I guess the next developer huts will be more relaxed and beneficial for the community and the game.
 

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The clan that is not dominant on my server was able to win and steal the sheriff position from the dominant alliance

very EPIC
reality: the player was part of the dominant alliance, and for that reason he had a lot of fame, he was expelled a few days before the election ended.
 

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reality: the player was part of the dominant alliance, and for that reason he had a lot of fame, he was expelled a few days before the election ended.
yes, since the update was rolled out, the alliance clans are leaving and uniting. There is a lot of activity.

the clan that stole the sheriff has been fighting very well against the dominant clans
 

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When endgame 3
 

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@Highway He notado que con la nueva fama que da en "modo combate", Las prendas no duran 4 turnos, Siempre duran 2 turnos y medio, O volveran a mejorar la fama que darán en modo combate para que dure los 4 turnos como se debe?
Its based on time you are in combat when clothing fame is gathered. A 100% fresh clothings holds for 4 hours of fame. So it should be 4 times you can use them for the 1 hour fame every 24 hours. If that is not the case a ticket would be helpfull so we can check your case more closely.
 

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reality: the player was part of the dominant alliance, and for that reason he had a lot of fame, he was expelled a few days before the election ended.
So they thought he would be also kicked from elections? :LOL:
 

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@Highway Hey my dear developper that cares about our community ,
I got a important question , wouldn't you think
That anky would need to have his ''extra armors stats'' back? I see this dino is like almost no used
Since the brachi is superior to it in everything ,
Please consider my opinion , and if you PLAYERS agree with me
Lets make it be seen by the Devs !
 

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So they thought he would be also kicked from elections? :LOL:
in fact, it was a clan that was part of the dominant alliance that were expelled, then the player who won sheriff had a lot of fame for that reason and the one who lost the position forgot to update the fame in the last minutes.
but i just wanted to make things clear, so that the developers don't think that players outside the dominant alliances, are managing to compete in high positions:sweatgrinning::sweatgrinning:
 

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in fact, it was a clan that was part of the dominant alliance that were expelled, then the player who won sheriff had a lot of fame for that reason and the one who lost the position forgot to update the fame in the last minutes.
but i just wanted to make things clear, so that the developers don't think that players outside the dominant alliances, are managing to compete in high positions:sweatgrinning::sweatgrinning:
yes, despite everything, small clans and attackers still have a huge disadvantage

Even the city council is still "monopolized", not like before but a balance is needed so that everyone can truly compete and not wait their turn on a list for future winners
 

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@Highway Hola, mi querido desarrollador que se preocupa por nuestra comunidad,
Tengo una pregunta importante, ¿no crees?
¿Ese anky necesitaría recuperar sus "estadísticas de armaduras adicionales"? Veo que este dino esta como casi sin uso
Dado que el brachi es superior a él en todo,
Considere mi opinión, y si JUGADORES está de acuerdo conmigo
¡Hagamos que los desarrolladores lo vean!
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Me gustaria volver a ver eso en ankaylosaurio, es lo que lo hacia diferente de los demas dinos @Highway No se si estan de acuerdo.
 

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what is still left to be discussed about part 2?
 

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I guess 2nd endgame update is the least complained big update for the last years
i will quit until there
what is still left to be discussed about part 2?
idk man idk. If i chose to develop an mmorpg over a span of a decade i would no joke do a better job at this point. The devs arent sencing the death of the game like we do
 

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I think they work with pirate galaxy and steel legions too, maybe that's why they have difficulty making updates and fixes
 

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Talking a little more about endgame 3 fame rewards.

Some interactions or actions we do in the building and travelings gameplay should give us a minimal bonus to fame. A small fame incentive could encourage both small and large clans into the game.

For example...
  • Capture a building, gain 50 fame.
  • Supply a building, get 100 fame.
  • Attacking a building, you gain 10 fame.
  • Defeating enemy clan players gains 15 fame.
  • Successfully defend against a bandit attack, gain 1k fame.
  • etc.

And of course, as I said a long time ago, fame should not be exclusively dedicated to clans (buildings), solo players and small players (like small clans), need their share of the pie. Especially small clans need an incentive to learn and develop little by little.
So it would be nice if pve content could give us fame, I know we can already earn fame daily through combat, but I mean gain fame through other types of alternative than pvp.

For example...
  • Group quests, players who belong to a clan and complete a group quest will receive fame.
  • Bandit camp: small pve bandit camps that appear randomly on the map, destroying camps give us individual or group rewards.
  • Gold Nuggets – Some bandits can drop small nuggets, which can be sold for 30 Fame.
 

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and another thing, very important... the BLUE SUPPLIES.

This small item is one of the most unbalanced in the game, as rich players can overbuy supplies and prevent small attacking clans with no chance to win anything.

Without this item you cannot be relevant in the clan, even though you play and fight for your clan. Basically, this item is very pay to win, if you don't have large amounts, you won't be able to win anything.

Endgame 3 should definitely change/balance the blue supplies mechanic
 
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and another thing, very important... the BLUE SUPPLIES.

This small item is one of the most unbalanced in the game, as rich players can overbuy supplies and prevent small attacking clans with no chance to win anything.

Without this item you cannot be relevant in the clan, even though you play and fight for your clan. Basically, this item is very pay to win, if you don't have large amounts, you won't be able to win anything.

Endgame 3 should definitely change/balance the blue supplies mechanic
True no matter how good you are at the game without gc you are nothing. Someone else can just fight your skills with Gc(kits,vios, etcs) and most of the time people with gc just group together because they just want easy victory and don't fight each other.
 

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what is still left to be discussed about part 2?
A few things.

Ever since that update hit the live server, the number of seats for any election tier has only decreased, despite the number of applicants exceeding the number of seats available, by a large margin.

The number of seats has not increased once

There are a few parameters that I have noticed that have not been told. 10 players put 30k fame (the minimum amount) for Town Election. In the end, those who won from those 10 were the ones that applied first, while those that applied last didn't win.

That piece of information wasn't mentioned when the update was released.

Every week, we're having surprises win/loss when the elections conclude, because when we put all information we know, we can guess which player will win what office. But yet each time, we're surprised because there's at least one piece of info that's off.

So we are still in the "testing phase" I should say, not many players have fully grasped the new system.
 

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Talking a little more about endgame 3 fame rewards.

Some interactions or actions we do in the building and travelings gameplay should give us a minimal bonus to fame. A small fame incentive could encourage both small and large clans into the game.

For example...
  • Capture a building, gain 50 fame.
  • Supply a building, get 100 fame.
  • Attacking a building, you gain 10 fame.
  • Defeating enemy clan players gains 15 fame.
  • Successfully defend against a bandit attack, gain 1k fame.
  • etc.

And of course, as I said a long time ago, fame should not be exclusively dedicated to clans (buildings), solo players and small players (like small clans), need their share of the pie. Especially small clans need an incentive to learn and develop little by little.
So it would be nice if pve content could give us fame, I know we can already earn fame daily through combat, but I mean gain fame through other types of alternative than pvp.

For example...
  • Group quests, players who belong to a clan and complete a group quest will receive fame.
  • Bandit camp: small pve bandit camps that appear randomly on the map, destroying camps give us individual or group rewards.
  • Gold Nuggets – Some bandits can drop small nuggets, which can be sold for 30 Fame.
yes! Please!!
 
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