#13 Endgame Part 2

[Ulutin]

how about making a market?? like the ones you see in albion online, WoW (i dont expect it to be the best but atleast something)

setting up your own price for your own items is not any different than "trade" system and this game definitely not planned for trade system. the "energy" for building "trade system" or "player market system" would be waste of effort. they could implement far better stuff for same amount of effort.

if you are not convinced yet, please explain what "items" would you like to trade?

 

[OrionZG]

But to create a trading system it is necessary to rework certain mechanics and also add some new ones, for example.

• The drop.
• The loot.
• The maps.
• New pve/pvp maps and also for outlaws.
• new AI
• The update items.
• Items (new items based on qualities).
• The market.
• Weapon/dino and item maintenance system.
• dds.
• Create trade limits.
• Exchange system.
• Variants to balance the system.
• A market with a supply and demand system.
• New job roles (Farmer, fisherman, artisan, etc).
• The alliance system
• Wars, buildings, fame (but that will already be done in endgame 3).
• etc

Are a lot of things, it's possible, but it's too far off an idea for the game. Currently the game is reworking many mechanics and I don't know if future devshack will take care of that as well, but it's very possible.

 

[Ulutin]

But to create a trading system it is necessary to rework certain mechanics and also add some new ones, for example.

• The drop.
• The loot.
• The maps.
• New pve/pvp maps and also for outlaws.
• new AI
• The update items.
• Items (new items based on qualities).
• The market.
• Weapon/dino and item maintenance system.
• dds.
• Create trade limits.
• Exchange system.
• Variants to balance the system.
• A market with a supply and demand system.
• New job roles (Farmer, fisherman, artisan, etc).
• The alliance system
• Wars, buildings, fame (but that will already be done in endgame 3).
• etc

Are a lot of things, it's possible, but it's too far off an idea for the game. Currently the game is reworking many mechanics and I don't know if future devshack will take care of that as well, but it's very possible.

ai wrote this list

 

[OrionZG]

ai wrote this list

nope, I wrote this based on Albion online, Eve Online and No mans Sky xd

Albion online trading or eve online are very complex but they are one of the most balanced trades i have seen

 

[- Cause -]

But to create a trading system it is necessary to rework certain mechanics and also add some new ones, for example.

• The drop.
• The loot.
• The maps.
• New pve/pvp maps and also for outlaws.
• new AI
• The update items.
• Items (new items based on qualities).
• The market.
• Weapon/dino and item maintenance system.
• dds.
• Create trade limits.
• Exchange system.
• Variants to balance the system.
• A market with a supply and demand system.
• New job roles (Farmer, fisherman, artisan, etc).
• The alliance system
• Wars, buildings, fame (but that will already be done in endgame 3).
• etc

Are a lot of things, it's possible, but it's too far off an idea for the game. Currently the game is reworking many mechanics and I don't know if future devshack will take care of that as well, but it's very possible.

i like many ideas but f.e. new job roles dont make very much sense in dino storm. Anyways, sick ideas! I hope they get added

 

[vansh]

I only see trouble with any kind of trading system.
First thought is already that an alliance could simply force you to pay certain item to them. And that is just the very obvious issue. There are more the longer i think about it.

It's a bit odd considering you guys said that with the new election system, if a player ask for fame and doesn't get fame from his alliance then he could leave the alliance. Anyways if alliance forcing their members to donate materials is an issue, then just make it so that materials can only be traded in for item of equal worth that is determined by the system.

 

[vansh]

While its true that trading system are the key factors to many problems such as duping, a trading system still brings in a lot of depths to a game. It allows people to achieve goals that would be deemed impossible on their own, it allows for player to player interaction that is not just toxic but pleasant. It just makes the game more fun to play in general. If you want to nit pick at all the flaws that the trading system have when you overlook the flaws that are worse, like account trading and multi accounting, then go ahead and do so.
Note: I do would like a trading system but I find that their is not enough content to the game that would require a trading system. Sure a trading system can help you achieve the 100 billion dino dollar that you dream of or it can help you max all your dinos, guns, imps and tech to 55 and trade forge-able cloth to make your dream set but apart from this really no point to a trade system. Maybe after more content is added in the future (by the time we complete 100 past seasonal event and complete the achievement to 100%) then we could see a trading system being useful.

 

[- Cause -]

reading this somehow it may work if they add more depth to the ranger. What if instead of f.e. the gov being an election and nothing else, it could be like some form of profession making every election important on its own. and in that hypothetical world i would too see trading as an interesting addition. And like this profession system could have upsides and downsides. or maybe (stick with me) the elections change completly from this currently linear path to something creative and then you would choose your target election when creating your character. I know rn it sounds not doable and stupid but given some good prerequisites it could actually be interesting.

 

[Alewx]

nope, I wrote this based on Albion online, Eve Online and No mans Sky xd

Albion online trading or eve online are very complex but they are one of the most balanced trades i have seen

and totally completly not comparable games.....

 

[vansh]

@Alewx Do you think that being in office in election should give some sort of minor advantage to the player in office. Lets say like being in office of sheriff gives you like +5% more money from items you sell at market. I think that would make the sheriff post more wanted that just some crowns that only gives cosmetics.

 

[-v e n u s-]

I would atleast like to add that may trading system not be the best choice at this point of the game development but maybe a companion little dino pet or smth would be nice to collect your itmes automatically when u purchase or smth….
its real pain to pick everything everytime on hand

 

[OrionZG]

I would atleast like to add that may trading system not be the best choice at this point of the game development but maybe a companion little dino pet or smth would be nice to collect your itmes automatically when u purchase or smth….
its real pain to pick everything everytime on hand

I don't want to assure anything (because I'm not dev or gm), but months ago a gm said that the devs are considering the idea of pets in the future. But I don't know, it was months ago and things change sometimes.

 

[OrionZG]

The building's Yield changes twice a day.

When exactly?

Speaking a bit more about this, do you plan to completely change this mechanism in endgame 3?

Because the performance system is kind of confusing and nobody cares about it. I recently thought that the yield system could work with blue supplies to increase the yield of buildings from low to high.

And in the meantime, supplying the life of a building, instead of blue supplies, could be with dds.

or vice versa.

 

[- V O R A -]

Remind me again why you guys changed the starter dino from baby coel to baby para.

 

[VioletRosa]

Remind me again why you guys changed the starter dino from baby coel to baby para.

idk but completely disappointed it wasn't baby centro :'v

 

[Igaflys]

Remind me again why you guys changed the starter dino from baby coel to baby para.

Maybe because many people used coelo in pvp and pve, they didnt need to hunt anything for new dino, while no one used para nor even unlocked it. By changing starting dino, automatically they made most of coelo players be forced to first complete all missions for him and later get stones to buy it. That means people need to spend more time in game or sum like this.

 

[Igaflys]

Coelo was one of the most op dinos in game back then before update xd

 

[- V O R A -]

Maybe because many people used coelo in pvp and pve, they didnt need to hunt anything for new dino, while no one used para nor even unlocked it. By changing starting dino, automatically they made most of coelo players be forced to first complete all missions for him and later get stones to buy it. That means people need to spend more time in game or sum like this.

Who the heck wants to spend more time unlocking something when the game is already hard enough to level and upgrade? I say bring back baby coel starter dino. There was no point in replacing it, not to mention they nerfed it by a lot.

 

[- V O R A -]

Also, devs I swear to God if Am5 shuts down one more time I'm gonna do absolutely nothing except complain even more.

 

[Igaflys]

Who the heck wants to spend more time unlocking something when the game is already hard enough to level and upgrade? I say bring back baby coel starter dino. There was no point in replacing it, not to mention they nerfed it by a lot.

Dude I just simply gave my idea why they changed it, dont forget that this game needs to earn money and they're doing this by having players that are playing this game and ofc buying stuff.

 

[- V O R A -]

Dude I just simply gave my idea why they changed it, dont forget that this game needs to earn money and they're doing this by having players that are playing this game and ofc buying stuff.

Relax, I'm not attacking you for your opinion. I simply disagree. I don't see how changing the starter dino back to coel will affect the way they earn money. Hell, I bet if they changed it back to coel, more people would stay and upgrade.

 

[- Cause -]

Can we have elections last less @Highway?

at this point its just a waiting game and no one likes waiting randomly for the sake of immersion. I know we shouldn't get the trex in a day but having theese long unskippable waits is destructive. Same applies to the time when you upgrade something. Atleast here can we not make it p2w? Thanks a lot and have a good day

 

[Highway]

You mean shortening the election times?
For example have the full period run for 7days instead of 14 days? (And half the token rewards at the same time)

Let me know your feedback on that.

 

[trabzon]

You mean shortening the election times?
For example have the full period run for 7days instead of 14 days? (And half the token rewards at the same time)

Let me know your feedback on that.

Its the same , if we get half the tokens , maybe just 33% less

 

[- Cause -]

You mean shortening the election times?
For example have the full period run for 7days instead of 14 days? (And half the token rewards at the same time)

Let me know your feedback on that.

yes it is but based on the reactions it isn't wanted hahah

 

[slejd2001]

Same applies to the time when you upgrade something. Atleast here can we not make it p2w?

how waiting for something to upgrade is p2w?

 

[vansh]

You mean shortening the election times?
For example have the full period run for 7days instead of 14 days? (And half the token rewards at the same time)

Let me know your feedback on that.

With shorter election time It would be harder to abuse the dynamic seat scaling and would increase competition for sheriff. I also determined that the seats will be less monopolized in that way. In my server there is 1 spare map, I even considered asking if this 1 map could be lent to the opposite side to allow them to meet the 30k minimum fame to *cough* abuse *cough* the dynamic seat since more election time= more fame build up= more people join election= more seats available.

 

[Pleiadian]

You mean shortening the election times?
For example have the full period run for 7days instead of 14 days? (And half the token rewards at the same time)

Let me know your feedback on that.

I don't know what needs to be done but... we're gonna need to change the game name from Dinostorm to T-Rex Storm soon.

 

[- Cause -]

how waiting for something to upgrade is p2w?

bcs you can skip the wait with gc and since they are limited and you mainly buy gc it is ___

 

[trabzon]

I don't know what needs to be done but... we're gonna need to change the game name from Dinostorm to T-Rex Storm soon.

Br

I don't know what needs to be done but... we're gonna need to change the game name from Dinostorm to T-Rex Storm soon.

Brother you know T-Rex is a dinosaur , its dino storm , trex is made to be played not to be watched and wanted for years , its good that everyone can enjoy rex , when ppl will get used to it they will enjoy other dinos , and rebalance ds dinos combos ect