Feedback Wanted: Site Conflict Adjustments (3.2)

[DarkMyth.]

1 year ago we used to see groups of 20-40 ready to attack and they could take one map after a tough war, nowadays 3 attackers are able to take half a map and they're asking for more, i don't know about everyone else but i'll speak for myself this gameplay became way too boring and honestly we're seeing less and less active people day by day whether it was from my side or from my enemy's side

 

[SPA]

lets do that, also because you always test the game so well, try to defend next phase when we attack your gates. Let see if you think we drain to fast, you can't heal as fast and if you could even kill us because of the def buff.

this is also wrong due to the fact that there are much fewer attackers you should all evaluate rationally evaluate from the side of the attacker and the defender. rThere is no balance to be achieved on the basis of hatred for each other, except to make a mess of the old order in order to create a new order

 

[-Kiwi-]

So you dont want the attackers getting alliance but defenders having alliance is ok.? Why not just remove the alliance easy for all

my brother,you cant stop the idea of alliances,and thats what the game is trying to do,trying to remove the idea of a defending alliance but keep an attacker alliance?

 

[..Arcadius..]

Bro if u wanna speak as attacker? Become attacker, do war and then comment as attacker , as attacker I can say it's one of the good update , just that Dev's need to make the buff applied to real attacker .
Next for PvP game , players can still fight without draining the gate so they still have the same gameplay.
Fighting for the gates? Fight with the owner clan rather than the alliance.

Who says I am not an attacker somewhere? If you have another opinion, then sure, I can't change that. Just speak for yourself.

 

[Pleiadian]

Haven't checked out how this update performs on live server.

But I can outright say that the biggest mistake Devs did is listening to a bunch of clowns from that Eu1 server, who wants nothing but to influence this update in a certain way.

Now there's part of it that's straight up unbalanced, leaving lots of loopholes to be abused. No defenders or attackers in here even want a fair gameplay with equal fight and rewards.

Amongst these posts, there's only @Czarna who has been suggesting a balanced gameplay for both attackers and defenders while at the same time promoting fun fight.

 

[-Kiwi-]

Haven't checked out how this update performs on live server.

But I can outright say that the biggest mistake Devs did is listening to a bunch of clowns from that Eu1 server.

i agree

 

[itzmee]

Who says I am not an attacker somewhere? If you have another opinion, then sure, I can't change that. Just speak for yourself.

we discussing about eu1 and then u wanna bring other server into this argument to justify it? eu1 dynamics is different. im attacker in eu1 and we speaking about eu1. do war in eu1 by being attacker then comment

 

[..Arcadius..]

Haven't checked out how this update performs on live server.

But I can outright say that the biggest mistake Devs did is listening to a bunch of clowns from that Eu1 server, who wants nothing but to influence this update in a certain way.

Building a whole new update just to satisfy a small group of people will always be wrong, whether those complaining are attackers or defenders.

 

[SPA]

I'm sure I can drain their 4 gates next phase alone against 5 of them. We should try this.

I'm sure I can drain their 4 gates next phase alone against 5 of them. We should try this.

It would be nice

 

[SPA]

Haven't checked out how this update performs on live server.

But I can outright say that the biggest mistake Devs did is listening to a bunch of clowns from that Eu1 server, who wants nothing but to influence this update in a certain way.

Now there's part of it that's straight up unbalanced, leaving lots of loopholes to be abused. No defenders or attackers in here even want a fair gameplay with equal fight and rewards.

Amongst these posts, there's only @Czarna who has been suggesting a balanced gameplay for both attackers and defenders while at the same time promoting fun fight.

I wouldn't mind joining your server ^^

 

[..Arcadius..]

we discussing about eu1 and then u wanna bring other server into this argument to justify it? eu1 dynamics is different. im attacker in eu1 and we speaking about eu1. do war in eu1 by being attacker then comment

This is exactly what Pleadian was just talking about. You only want a tailored update that only satisfies your needs. You should take all servers into perspective, not just your clan or your own server.

And also to answer your ridiculous question, I've been an attacker in Eu1 in the past for a long time. I never saw anyone from both sides complaining about defending or attacking alliances.

Last thing, I know you'll bring up that you are just 1 clan against an entire alliance. I hope you don't forget that you aren't the first in eu1 to be in a clan vs alliance situation.

 

[itzmee]

@itzmee can we PLEASE try this?

yes try draining ur alliance buildings and let us know here with real fight.

 

[-Kiwi-]

we discussing about eu1 and then u wanna bring other server into this argument to justify it? eu1 dynamics is different. im attacker in eu1 and we speaking about eu1. do war in eu1 by being attacker then comment

you should not make an entire update just to fit some dynamics of 1 server out of more than 6

 

[itzmee]

attackers were able to drain the buildings of invicto alt clan because they were off. full clan off and no one to repair it. attackers also tried to drain BAH but couldnt get even one. whats ally point on it? clans stay off , alliance protect it?

 

[-Kiwi-]

yes try draining ur alliance buildings and let us know here with real fight.

i actually did drain my own alliance 3 weeks ago,and with 3 people i took half a map against a clan with 20 people
its not fair

 

[-Kiwi-]

attackers were able to drain the buildings of invicto alt clan because they were off. full clan off and no one to repair it. attackers also tried to drain BAH but couldnt get even one. whats ally point on it? clans stay off , alliance protect it?

you were 2 attackers online,what the hell do you want to do against an entire alliance?

 

[..Arcadius..]

yes try draining ur alliance buildings and let us know here with real fight.

I just have a question, though, you're one of the most people here who complain on forum about how bad the previous updates were. Would you mind telling us how you had the chance to effectively test the previous updates to the fullest while you're level 32? No offense, but it's kinda ridiculous that you try to convince people here of something when you didn't even test the update. I guess its either that or you've got another account

 

[itzmee]

Why would I drain the alliance? If I drain you, you can see how hard it is to keep the gates.

man idk what point u even wanna make it, u wanna drain the camps of fekete well we dont have any option to defend it now or even before update , so ur point is invalid. now for u to try being attacker , attack the alliance and get the buildings and then comment so we both same, now we arent same bro

 

[itzmee]

We have New people in game they join our side and we see old New player coming back but Yeah you guys before update just trade maps in 10 min and blocked every attacker (bc no gate for attack) why we dont speak about you guys used everything aganist us? Now we have chance for buldings=you guys want take away? Small Group we have 30-40 ppl active high lvl and low lvls who upg

 

[..Arcadius..]

I just have a question, though, you're one of the most people here who complain on forum about how bad the previous updates were. Would you mind telling us how you had the chance to effectively test the previous updates to the fullest while you're level 32? No offense, but it's kinda ridiculous that you try to convince people here of something when you didn't even test the update. I guess its either that or you've got another account
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Hopefully maybe @Alewx or @Highway could look into this. We'd like to either know your name on tEU1 so we can know how you can come up with all this amazing feedback, or, have you banned from here so we can focus on people who actually bothered to test the update rather than give misleading feedback since I believe a level 32 wouldn't have really had a chance to test the update.

 

[Ostral]

@itzmee i dont understand how this update is working for you, i mean alliance can split into more than 2-3 clans with few people and take gates just to make u dont get any gates for yourself, nothing changes, just more miserable gameplay xD

 

[itzmee]

At this point, you don't want to try to understand what I said. You got the experience of attacking gates last phase, and you don't want to understand that this update is bad.

I'm offering you the chance to experience the defending side so we can get our facts straight. But instead of accepting my offer, you tell me to attack the alliance. My point isn't that I want to know what attacking is like, I already know that. I want you to understand what defending is like.

we didnt try to defend earlier then why would we try do it now? because it makes no sense to fight 30 ppl at one gate.

 

[..Arcadius..]

Small Group we have 30-40 ppl active high lvl and low lvls who upg

Show me 30 fekete online and I give you my gates and leave the game

 

[-Kiwi-]

We have New people in game they join our side and we see old New player coming back but Yeah you guys before update just trade maps in 10 min and blocked every attacker (bc no gate for attack) why we dont speak about you guys used everything aganist us? Now we have chance for buldings=you guys want take away? Small Group we have 30-40 ppl active high lvl and low lvls who upg

brother you have max 8 people active and most of them arent even full level

 

[..Arcadius..]

brother you have max 8 people active and most of them arent even full level

no no 40 ppl trust me bro.

 

[itzmee]

I see I won my point. Thank you very much.

what did u win man? i just said defending for our clan isnt worthy cos 1 player will be attacked by 30 players (defenders) at the camp so instead we prefer to take other gates.
i clearly mentioned defending wasnt possible for us back before the new update and guess what u took our gates without fight and then u dont write it. now owner clan offline = attackers take buildings and u write update is bad. better ask the owner clan be online fight to take buildings.

 

[Faye]

uff ... back to topic pls

 

[SPA]

I suggest that the development team and GMs become attackers on eu-1 in order to understand what needs to be changed

 

[itzmee]

I suggest that the development team and GMs become attackers on eu-1 in order to understand what needs to be changed

perfect

 

[Pleiadian]

Defenders would make more sense.

The testing team should be both Attackers and Defenders.

It is not possible that they only attack attack attack. Otherwise, these changes are a net negative against defenders. The proper mindset is making the gameplay fun and equal for both parties. Not simply helping attackers side or only defender side.

When an attackers obtain a tower, that attacker should at least strive to defend the Site that they have managed to hold.

With the new changes that should be possible.