Balancing tweaks update feedback

[slejd2001]

Generally I didn't check centro and anky stats, as I don't have them and I didn't find people using them at the moment of writing this thread. @Gruni

Clear bugs:

• Yager has gatling's focus before the update, 66 focus
• Gatling has colt's focus before the update, 329 focus
• Peacemaker has hammer's focus before the update, 13 focus
• Hammer has yager's focus before the update, 658 focus
• Colt has peacemaker's focus before the update, 1315 focus
• In update announcement its written that showstoppers power shot skill while used with extra power would have 15s cool down, but in game its written that 17s (10s + 7s from description)

Noticed staff:
If im not wrong all guns have range increasing within lvls and peacemaker doesn't. There was nothing written about it in update announcement

@Developers could you explain what are bases for range, focus, endurance and strength attributes? I don't understand what those base per cent increases and decreases actually mean. First I thought that attribute number would be changed by %, like 30% increase of range for 250 range would be 325 range in total, but now it seems that those changes are based on some other values. Unless I understood it correctly, but the values are incorrect

Game update September 20, link for players: https://forum.dinostorm.com/threads/game-update-september-20-2022-balancing-tweaks.21562/#post-73905

 

[slejd2001]

• Yager has gatling's focus before the update, 66 focus
• Gatling has colt's focus before the update, 329 focus
• Peacemaker has hammer's focus before the update, 13 focus
• Hammer has yager's focus before the update, 658 focus
• Colt has peacemaker's focus before the update, 1315 focus

I just now have read what alewx have written about this, I'm even more confused

 

[Alewx]

In update announcement its written that showstoppers power shot skill while used with extra power would have 15s cool down, but in game its written that 17s (10s + 7s from description)

Indeed another mistake that was made.

If im not wrong all guns have range increasing within lvls and peacemaker doesn't. There was nothing written about it in update announcement

was overlooked. but the result is that with lvl55 the weapon ranges get closer together and it is easier to fight aginst pm, so that is not the sole solution to everything.

 

[.NightPhamtom.]

Generally I didn't check centro and anky stats, as I don't have them and I didn't find people using them at the moment of writing this thread. @Gruni

Clear bugs:

• Yager has gatling's focus before the update, 66 focus
• Gatling has colt's focus before the update, 329 focus
• Peacemaker has hammer's focus before the update, 13 focus
• Hammer has yager's focus before the update, 658 focus
• Colt has peacemaker's focus before the update, 1315 focus
• In update announcement its written that showstoppers power shot skill while used with extra power would have 15s cool down, but in game its written that 17s (10s + 7s from description)

Noticed staff:
If im not wrong all guns have range increasing within lvls and peacemaker doesn't. There was nothing written about it in update announcement

@Developers could you explain what are bases for range, focus, endurance and strength attributes? I don't understand what those base per cent increases and decreases actually mean. First I thought that attribute number would be changed by %, like 30% increase of range for 250 range would be 325 range in total, but now it seems that those changes are based on some other values. Unless I understood it correctly, but the values are incorrect

Game update September 20, link for players: https://forum.dinostorm.com/threads/game-update-september-20-2022-balancing-tweaks.21562/#post-73905

anky had 286 endurance before and 16k strenght now 536 endurance and 19k strenght at lvl 55

 

[slejd2001]

@Developers could you explain what are bases for range, focus, endurance and strength attributes? I don't understand what those base per cent increases and decreases actually mean.

@Alewx any explanation about base values?

 

[Alewx]

@Alewx any explanation about base values?

I cant' discose everything. But the various attributes can not be compared with each other directly, also not all attributes have a base that translates to 0.

 

[- TryDowN -]

@Alewx actually the new balancing has shaped the pvp a bit more but it has a lot of missing parts, for example the rex very op that almost everyone has this dino needs to be weakened

 

[Alewx]

@Alewx actually the new balancing has shaped the pvp a bit more but it has a lot of missing parts, for example the rex very op that almost everyone has this dino needs to be weakened

The reaction when there is a changelog announcing a nerf of the tyrannosaurus....

 

[- TryDowN -]

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[- TryDowN -]

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The reaction when there is a changelog announcing a nerf of the tyrannosaurus....

Actually, all I want is for all dinos to be equal and wars have a lot of dino diversity, just like it used to be (2013-2016) All other dinos except rex can be balanced among themselves, I don't know about this, but there is no dino that can oppose rex, which is why rex is very popular in wars. makes everyone prefer rex in wars

 

[- TryDowN -]

but as I mentioned before, balancing is done frequently in every game and it is not possible to have everything in a few days, it can be changed several times a year until it is the best.

 

[Galaxy]

some tweaks to implants and techs would be nice too, some are very weak and some are very strong

 

[slejd2001]

Actually, all I want is for all dinos to be equal and wars have a lot of dino diversity, just like it used to be (2013-2016)

Just saying that back then very little number of players had rexes and there were a lot more players playing ds, nowadays almost everyone got rex and there are a lot less players.

 

[Draxth]

anky had 286 endurance before and 16k strenght now 536 endurance and 19k strenght at lvl 55

do you think anky still is worth to play?

 

[Papagaio]

Centro is Very good now

 

[MX Power]

I cant' discose everything. But the various attributes can not be compared with each other directly, also not all attributes have a base that translates to 0.

Can we at least have a confirmation on whether this is the intended value or not?

 

[.NightPhamtom.]

do you think anky still is worth to play?

anky is good right now i play it again

 

[NazzaFire]

It was not mentioned, but from what I have been able to observe, since this update was released in the game, I have observed that the tigers and alpha tigers do a little more damage than before, and I wonder why?

 

[vansh]

I noticed something with guns ability range varying depending on the dino that you use. Rex seem to affect and make the weapon ability range a bit longer giving it more range.

 

[Alewx]

I noticed something with guns ability range varying depending on the dino that you use. Rex seem to affect and make the weapon ability range a bit longer giving it more range.

wish that would be possible, but no what you experience there is just pure perception due to the speed of the dino.

 

[Pleiadian]

Does the balance tweak also include PvE's weapon and dino?

For example, are the mobs affected by the Balance changes or is it just players?

 

[Alewx]

Does the balance tweak also include PvE's weapon and dino?

For example, are the mobs affected by the Balance changes or is it just players?

i was working on the player dinos and weapons, the mobs should not be affected, but will look into it.

 

[vansh]

Something that I don't like about this game is that at dino range the attacks slow you down and the stability mechanics interact together. Look at dino like brachi and anky, if you don't want them to stun or confuse you, you have to equip stability implant but if you do that it makes it so that you cannot prevent them from escaping dino range normal attacks. This mean a brachi with endurance imp cannot be locked into close range combat by a carno with endurance imp and stability. Even though the carno is faster.

 

[Alewx]

Ok checked the mobs, and so far the changes of the dinos went 1:1 directly into the npcs. Weapons however did not get automaticlly get updated as well, working on that atm also the skills did not get updated.

 

[Pleiadian]

Quick overview of the changes.

So far, the majority of Dino and weapons changes are reasonable. I haven't tested it in depth, but from random combats and PvP with most Dinos and Weapons, I see that each item is good in its own way.

Few concerns to look out for, however.

1. Brachiosaurus will be the most used dinosaur because of its high Vitality Points and increased speed. (Not a problem in itself)
   
   Many lazy players will tend to use this dino because if paired with high damage weapon (Showstopper or Hammer) it's a very deadly combo.
   
   
2. T-Rex is performing the role of 2 classes - Damager & Runner. (I personally disagree with that Endurance buff, regardless of how minor it is since we've been asking for a slight reduction in its speed anyway)
   
   
3. There are still some bugs here and there, Showstopper 1st ability with Extra Power sometimes does not hit both targets even tho they are directly in front of the line of attack.
   
   
4. The way information is presented for Tech and Implants needs to change, in the changelog, changes for abilities like Focus and Range are written in percentage while in the game it's written in numbers, and in the end, we have a situation where we don't know the exact value of a Tech/ Implant.
   
   
5. Freeze tech would come in handy now that there has been an overall endurance increase. However, as reported on the forum through this post (Excessive functionality of heat implant and cold resistance attribute)
   
   Heat Regulator Implants make the Freeze tech useless, to the point that it reduces the chance of Freeze tech being activated.

 

[slejd2001]

T-Rex is performing the role of 2 classes - Damager & Runner. (I personally disagree with that Endurance buff, regardless of how minor it is since we've been asking for a slight reduction in its speed anyway)

I notice the same.

Freeze tech would come in handy now that there has been an overall endurance increase. However, as reported on the forum through this post (Excessive functionality of heat implant and cold resistance attribute)

I see the decreased use of the regulator among the players and I recently tested the odds for freezer to cast slow down effect while player doesn't use regulator and so odds are high. So for now I don't have to say something bad or good about current situation with regulator and freezer, even though I made that post.

I see more players playing in close range now and increased use of tanks. I just have tested hammer with coel and para in 1v1 fights and group fights and all what I can tell is that hammer is better and coel with para are still good to use. I have tried gat with pachy in group fights and I don't see much of change so far in terms of group fights.

 

[OrionZG]

what martin needs is less focus xD

 

[_Bad BunnY_]

The concept of balance is that there are only Brachiosaurus in the game

 

[Phenomenus]

idk guys, centro colt is quite promising in melee

 

[slejd2001]

Gat for far range seems to be good too as I have tested so far. With rex+endurance clothes its sometimes unnecessary to use freezer or far range gun to catch somebody. For me things seem to be fine so far.