Hypocrisy on Supreme Weapons?

[LEVIATHAN GRANDZILLA]

Hello, I Am Leviathan.

Well wasn't the point of supreme weapons is to have extra skill on each weapon which acts as free slot for players?

But why lvl 55 supreme hammer has 2.3k shock casually?
A simple shock tech got 1.9K


So why supreme hammer got 2.3K shock while other guns such as supreme colt and supreme pm get barely 500+ Dino defense and precision skill when upgraded to their max levels?

(Excluding supreme colt.. ik pm is level 50 but it won't even reach 1k+ to compete with supreme hammer apart from its WEAK +12 FOCUS when it's a SUPREME WEAPON)



shock tech, precision tech and Dino defense tech has equally 1.9K score but why the unfairness comes inside the supreme weapon extra skill numbers while all the techs have equal number points??

LOOK HERE.




If all supreme weapons was meant to ACT AS EXTRA SLOT FOR players why hammer got over 2K shock WITHOUT even using a shock tech while other supreme weapons barely got 500+ on their extra skill?

Thanks for reading.

 

[Danny99s]

Supreme hammer 123% worth of Shock tech.
Cyber pachy 18% worth of weapon reflecance implant.
Is not even giving more to the least used gear. Just throw the dice and that's balance :/

 

[-TroubleMaker-]

balance has never been the developers' strong point

 

[DalekRaptor]

Hello, I Am Leviathan.

Well wasn't the point of supreme weapons is to have extra skill on each weapon which acts as free slot for players?

But why lvl 55 supreme hammer has 2.3k shock casually? View attachment 49716
A simple shock tech got 1.9K
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So why supreme hammer got 2.3K shock while other guns such as supreme colt and supreme pm get barely 500+ Dino defense and precision skill when upgraded to their max levels?

(Excluding supreme colt.. ik pm is level 50 but it won't even reach 1k+ to compete with supreme hammer apart from its WEAK +12 FOCUS when it's a SUPREME WEAPON)
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shock tech, precision tech and Dino defense tech has equally 1.9K score but why the unfairness comes inside the supreme weapon extra skill numbers while all the techs have equal number points??

LOOK HERE.
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If all supreme weapons was meant to ACT AS EXTRA SLOT FOR players why hammer got over 2K shock WITHOUT even using a shock tech while other supreme weapons barely got 500+ on their extra skill?

Thanks for reading.

yeah, even those precision points don't make any difference using the tech with supreme peacemaker due the limit at precision atribute; and without using the tech it is very strange to get just one critic. The same would have happened to hammer if it has just 500 of shock

 

[LEVIATHAN GRANDZILLA]

yeah, even those precision points don't make any difference using the tech with supreme peacemaker due the limit at precision atribute; and without using the tech it is very strange to get just one critic. The same would have happened to hammer if it has just 500 of shock

Moreover, supreme pm's focus sucks in 2 digit numbers compared to other supreme guns and on top that, the precision skill doesn't even reach 1k+ let alone 500+

Whats the use of supreme pm when it's focus skill sucks. how will it even hit decent precision attacks when it can't even focus at all and other guns have better focus bruh.

It doesn't have to get the best focus skill but at least it needs to have the (lowest focus) (not the worst) among rest of supreme guns maybe buffing it to 100+ is fair enough
but "supreme" pm having 2 digit focus is VERY WRONG. along with unfairness of shock skill with other skill attributes. @Alewx

 

[LEVIATHAN GRANDZILLA]

Okay...
maybe supreme Gatling, supreme colt and supreme shotgun doesn't need high number on extra skill cuz they already have enough clock and (shotgun having over 3k focus)

Also I just realised supreme pm has 12+ focus when normal pm has 13+ focus.

 

[DalekRaptor]

Moreover, supreme pm's focus sucks in 2 digit numbers compared to other supreme guns and on top that, the precision skill doesn't even reach 1k+ let alone 500+

Whats the use of supreme pm when it's focus skill sucks. how will it even hit decent precision attacks when it can't even focus at all and other guns have better focus bruh.

It doesn't have to get the best focus skill but at least it needs to have the (lowest focus) (not the worst) among rest of supreme guns maybe buffing it to 100+ is fair enough
but "supreme" pm having 2 digit focus is VERY WRONG. along with unfairness of shock skill with other skill attributes. @Alewx

would have been better if they gave to supreme peacemaker focus or clock instead just 400 precision

 

[LEVIATHAN GRANDZILLA]

We actually wanna know their logic behind increasing, decreasing or adding such skill attributes cuz I feel it's uneven.

Even some Dino's such as cyber rex got just 560+ armour while cyber coel got 1.2k+ shield for free without even using shield implant

 

[Narokath]

Let me jump in here quickly to say that the numerical values on different attributes cannot be compared like-for-like. Each attribute has its own numerical scale, and sometimes these are so similar that comparisons between attributes seem obvious -- but in the end, the resulting effect in combat is what counts, and that is determined separately for each attribute. So, the numerical values of an attribute serve as reference for their effect in combat for that attribute alone.

 

[FwtisTz]

Let me jump in here quickly to say that the numerical values on different attributes cannot be compared like-for-like. Each attribute has its own numerical scale, and sometimes these are so similar that comparisons between attributes seem obvious -- but in the end, the resulting effect in combat is what counts, and that is determined separately for each attribute. So, the numerical values of an attribute serve as reference for their effect in combat for that attribute alone.

Add percentages and don't confuse the player base. Wtf is 1890 armor supposed to mean? Instead of saying something like 35% damage reduction? Or weapon reflectance for example? Instead of having some random ass Numbers how about it says 30% chance of triggering? And for each level the chance increases by 0.5% ( just an example )

 

[LEVIATHAN GRANDZILLA]

For those who didn't understand what narokath said, here:

 

[BluePXL]

What Narokath said makes sense, especially when looking at Clock for example, where the lvl 55 tech gives 10800 clock. But I can also understand where the players are coming from, it would help the player-base to have a comparison to what those numbers effectively mean. 1350 Agility, 1890 Weapon Reflectence, etc. There are a few different values and you don't really know the exact meaning of, except if you calculate the approximate proc-chance by fighting 1000 enemies haha. That would also help to maybe min-max certain attributes and to find the best possible math-based combinations