Gold shop changes

[Ulutin]

Because PagSeguro stopped supporting PayPal

paypal is banned in türkiye since a decade. blame your government, not the developers

 

[.. JERUSALEM ..]

The USD store is extremely and ridiculously expensive. I moved to the United Arab Emirates, but I still have fixed income in Brazil because I have rental properties. Note: I am Brazilian, and I could use PIX and that income to buy gold. But they changed absolutely everything, and now my account is in the USD store, which is extremely bad, because 1 USD = 3.67 AED. I would have to pay 70 AED for just one violent booster 30 days, that is absurdly expensive!!!!!!!!

This is not fair. These prices are harming the gameplay experience for many players. Either return accounts to their original regional stores, or adjust the USD store prices as a universal payment system for everyone. Only then would it be fair.

Because while I would have to pay 125 USD (459.13 AED) for 22K coins, a Brazilian pays only 160 BRL (30.53 USD). In other words, they can afford to buy 4 times more gold than I can for the same amount of money.

The numbers don’t add up:

1 BRL = 1.42 AED

22K gc = 160 BRL

22K gc = 459.13 AED (because of the USD store)

So, while many players have different stores and can buy up to 4x more gold than others, don’t talk about fairness. Create a single payment system for everyone at the SAME price. Until then, the unfairness will continue.

Right now, while some players can buy gold at what feels like a “cheap” price, others have to pay extremely high amounts for a ridiculous quantity that doesn’t even properly cover a single Violent booster.

How do you expect me to buy the Cyber Q10 outfits and cynergy core Q10 with this USD store? It would cost nearly 600 AED to get that. For 600 AED, I could buy an electric scooter. Does that make sense to you?

 

[.. JERUSALEM ..]

It is more than clear that the USD store is completely unbalanced and based on a reality that is unfamiliar to many players.

After the end of PayPal, someone decided it was a good idea to transfer accounts between regions in an attempt to solve a problem, but you ended up creating a much bigger one. NO ONE supports the USD store. NO ONE can sustain the USD store. The prices are extremely high — it’s simply not possible to pay for what’s being offered and still talk about fairness.

They mentioned that many players had a currency exchange advantage and that this wasn’t fair.
That may be a valid point, but let me ask you this:
when you change only some accounts to a different region and not all of them, when some players are forced to pay 125 USD for 22K gold coins while others pay around 30 USD in their local currency, is that fair? Don’t those players now have a currency advantage?

Nothing was made fair. You just changed who benefits and ended up harming many players.

A basic calculation clearly shows that this system does not hold up:

1 BRL = 1.42 AED (March 26 at 7:27 PM UTC)
22K (BR store) = 160 BRL = 30.48 USD (March 26 at 7:27 PM UTC)
22K (USD store) = 125 USD = 459.22 AED (March 26 at 7:27 PM UTC)

30.48 USD × 4 = 121.92 USD = 88K GC FOR THE BRAZILIANS
125 USD = 22K GC FOR AVERAGE PLAYER WITH USD STORE

In other words, Brazilian players can buy 4 times more gold than a player whose account was moved to the USD store.

Is that fair? Are you really eliminating exchange-rate advantages?

How do you expect me to buy a Q10 Cyber outfit set and Cynergy Core Q10 under these conditions? That would cost me at least 600 AED. Honestly, in terms of purchasing power, with 600 AED I could buy a brand-new electric scooter.

Does that make sense? Was it really supposed to be worth that much? I don’t believe so.

 

[DarkMyth.]

paypal is banned in türkiye since a decade. blame your government, not the developers

I guess u didn't understand my post to begin with or didn't read the entire thread, I'm not from turkey first of all and I didn't blame the developers for anything I shared an opinion, and lastly it was found that pagseguro still actually supports paypal, but on dino storm it somehow doesn't support it anymore which I find funny personally, I don't think I mentioned wanting paypal on turkey shops knowing very well it's not even available in turkey

 

[Vulcan]

The USD store is extremely and ridiculously expensive. I moved to the United Arab Emirates, but I still have fixed income in Brazil because I have rental properties. Note: I am Brazilian, and I could use PIX and that income to buy gold. But they changed absolutely everything, and now my account is in the USD store, which is extremely bad, because 1 USD = 3.67 AED. I would have to pay 70 AED for just one violent booster 30 days, that is absurdly expensive!!!!!!!!

This is not fair. These prices are harming the gameplay experience for many players. Either return accounts to their original regional stores, or adjust the USD store prices as a universal payment system for everyone. Only then would it be fair.

Because while I would have to pay 125 USD (459.13 AED) for 22K coins, a Brazilian pays only 160 BRL (30.53 USD). In other words, they can afford to buy 4 times more gold than I can for the same amount of money.

The numbers don’t add up:

1 BRL = 1.42 AED

22K gc = 160 BRL

22K gc = 459.13 AED (because of the USD store)

So, while many players have different stores and can buy up to 4x more gold than others, don’t talk about fairness. Create a single payment system for everyone at the SAME price. Until then, the unfairness will continue.

Right now, while some players can buy gold at what feels like a “cheap” price, others have to pay extremely high amounts for a ridiculous quantity that doesn’t even properly cover a single Violent booster.

How do you expect me to buy the Cyber Q10 outfits and cynergy core Q10 with this USD store? It would cost nearly 600 AED to get that. For 600 AED, I could buy an electric scooter. Does that make sense to you?

While I agree that prices are currently too high and I'm also in the same situation, as my income is from Brazil despite living in another country, I have to disagree on a universal price for gold.
While it might seem fair at first because everyone would pay the same, we gotta take into consideration that not every currency has the same value. For example, if 22k costed $50 for everyone and you wanted to load 22k every month:
If you're an average German, the $50 would be 1% of your salary (gross average monthly salary is $4500-$4800)
If you're an average Venezuelan, the $50 would 21% of your salary (gross average monthly salary is $231)

 

[xx-predator-xx]

While I agree that prices are currently too high and I'm also in the same situation, as my income is from Brazil despite living in another country, I have to disagree on a universal price for gold.
While it might seem fair at first because everyone would pay the same, we gotta take into consideration that not every currency has the same value. For example, if 22k costed $50 for everyone and you wanted to load 22k every month:
If you're an average German, the $50 would be 1% of your salary (gross average monthly salary is $4500-$4800)
If you're an average Venezuelan, the $50 would 21% of your salary (gross average monthly salary is $231)

you realize that somebody who lives in Germany is not taking the gross salary but the NET salary(after taxes) plus all the bills,rent,etc to be paid which doesnt leave you with lots to spend on a game

 

[Vulcan]

you realize that somebody who lives in Germany is not taking the gross salary but the NET salary(after taxes) plus all the bills,rent,etc to be paid which doesnt leave you with lots to spend on a game

So does the Venezuelan. Your point?

But fine, let's do net values.

Germany's average monthly net salary: $3000-$3200 (50$ would be 1.61%)
Venezuela's average monthly net salary: $100-$230 (50$ would be 30.3%)

If you had to pick one would you pick Venezuela because it pays less taxes?
If you were making $165 would you be able to load gold in a universal shop where 22k is $50?

 

[.. JERUSALEM ..]

While I agree that prices are currently too high and I'm also in the same situation, as my income is from Brazil despite living in another country, I have to disagree on a universal price for gold.
While it might seem fair at first because everyone would pay the same, we gotta take into consideration that not every currency has the same value. For example, if 22k costed $50 for everyone and you wanted to load 22k every month:
If you're an average German, the $50 would be 1% of your salary (gross average monthly salary is $4500-$4800)
If you're an average Venezuelan, the $50 would 21% of your salary (gross average monthly salary is $231)

But then again, it’s not really arguable to say that some people are richer than others, is it? One thing is the government taxing the wealthy; another is a game doing it.

It’s simple: if you don’t have enough money, don’t buy it.

Obviously, for those who earn more, things will be more affordable, spoiler: that’s how life works. People who make more money can buy cars, apartments, houses, motorcycles, etc.

The problem is that the game claims it’s doing this for fairness, while not being consistent. There’s no fairness in a Brazilian having 4x more purchasing power than me. It’s not fair that I have to pay absurd prices while others pay almost nothing.

If the game wants to be fair, then there should be a store priced in dollars for everyone or for no one.

They claim to want fairness, but they put some players in dollar-based stores while keeping others in their original stores, without offering options in alternative currencies for example, AED. There is no AED store, so all they tell me is, “Sorry, but you’ll have to stay in the dollar store and pay much more so it’s not unfair.”

You’re already being unfair, the only thing that changed is who benefits.

 

[Vulcan]

But then again, it’s not really arguable to say that some people are richer than others, is it? One thing is the government taxing the wealthy; another is a game doing it.

It’s simple: if you don’t have enough money, don’t buy it.

Obviously, for those who earn more, things will be more affordable, spoiler: that’s how life works. People who make more money can buy cars, apartments, houses, motorcycles, etc.

The problem is that the game claims it’s doing this for fairness, while not being consistent. There’s no fairness in a Brazilian having 4x more purchasing power than me. It’s not fair that I have to pay absurd prices while others pay almost nothing.

If the game wants to be fair, then there should be a store priced in dollars for everyone or for no one.

They claim to want fairness, but they put some players in dollar-based stores while keeping others in their original stores, without offering options in alternative currencies for example, AED. There is no AED store, so all they tell me is, “Sorry, but you’ll have to stay in the dollar store and pay much more so it’s not unfair.”

You’re already being unfair, the only thing that changed is who benefits.

Brother, how can you say Brazilians' purchasing power is 4x yours when the GDP per capita of Brazil is $19,600 and GDP per capita of UAE is $68,500

Obviously, inside each market you'll have richer and poorer than the average, but to fairly compare them we have to use it.

In the country I currently live in 22k costs 115$ and the GPD per capita is $41,900. Meaning it's even more expensive than for AED.

They're both ridiculously priced, don't get me wrong. But I'm not asking for cheap gold. I'm asking for reasonable priced gold for everyone, and you can't do that with a universal shop.

 

[.. JERUSALEM ..]

Brother, how can you say Brazilians' purchasing power is 4x yours when the GDP per capita of Brazil is $19,600 and GDP per capita of UAE is $68,500

Obviously, inside each market you'll have richer and poorer than the average, but to fairly compare them we have to use it.

In the country I currently live in 22k costs 115$ and the GPD per capita is $41,900. Meaning it's even more expensive than for AED.

They're both ridiculously priced, don't get me wrong. But I'm not asking for cheap gold. I'm asking for reasonable priced gold for everyone, and you can't do that with a universal shop.

The Brazilian purchasing power, specifically regarding gold purchases, is indeed 4x higher. I proved this through calculations:

1 BRL = 1.42 AED (March 26 at 7:27 PM UTC)
22K (BR store) = 160 BRL = 30.48 USD (March 26 at 7:27 PM UTC)
22K (USD store) = 125 USD = 459.22 AED (March 26 at 7:27 PM UTC)

But I agree with you. What I actually meant is to standardize (dollarize) the payment method for everyone, not with fixed pricing, but with fair regional pricing. Because it doesn’t make sense for me to pay $125 for 22k GC while a Brazilian pays $30 for the same amount. They can buy 4x more gold than I can and still pay less.


88k GC for a Brazilian is $121 USD
22k GC for me is $125 USD