Upgrade Item drops from upper tier units

[Blank_Sven67]

Many players, especially low-level players, are complaining that many items take a long time to drop or don't drop at all, and even using gel doesn't solve the problem. When will this be fixed?

 

[H O A R A H]

Of all the clothing drops, the saddles are the most difficult to obtain.

 

[Orochii]

Yes, farming has become much worse for lower level players who hunt in higher level areas to obtain specific items. Now we depend on luck for the item we need to drop, and the chance is only 1 in 4.

For example:
Before the update, a level 50-54 Smilodon would drop a level 50 common item and a level 45 uncommon item.

Now, the same level item (level 50) still drops normally, but the level 45 drop became random. Instead of always dropping a specific uncommon item, it can now drop one of the four uncommon items in the game, and only one of them drops at a time.

This means we no longer get a specific item consistently, which makes farming much more RNG-based.

I understand the possible logic behind this change: Now we can farm DDs and achievements for killing a specific dinosaur while also getting items to upgrade our gear at the same time, which is actually a good idea. However, for lower level players who are focused on reaching max level as quickly as possible to participate more effectively in PvP and wars, this change is very frustrating.

The increased RNG slows down progression and makes farming specific upgrade items much less efficient

 

[Highway]

Why are you not farming in the level tier you are? There you can hunt specitic items you want and have less RNG. Still going for higher tiers gives you a drop chance boost to compensate for the RNG 1:4 to get the item you want. The rest you can sell for DD.

 

[Blank_Sven67]

This isn't solving the problem; the drop rate is worse when hunting in the same level area.

 

[Orochii]

Why are you not farming in the level tier you are? There you can hunt specitic items you want and have less RNG. Still going for higher tiers gives you a drop chance boost to compensate for the RNG 1:4 to get the item you want. The rest you can sell for DD.

Let me explain the situation more clearly:

For example, a level 48 player hunting in a level 48 area would only get 1x of the level 45 item.
In a level 49 area, they could get 2x of the level 45 item. However, if that same level 48 player goes to a level 50 or 51 area, they could obtain 3x or even 4x of the level 45 item due to the level difference bonus.

And here is the important point:
In level 50–54 areas, the level 45 item becomes the lower-tier drop of that zone. Meanwhile, in level 45–49 areas, the higher-tier item is level 45 and the lower tier one is level 40.
So by going to higher tier zones, the level 45 item actually becomes more accessible in terms of drop structure, while also benefiting from the extra quantity bonus.

Another important reason why players go to highe -level areas is to farm the gemstones required for dinos, weapons, implants, and tech in advance.

 

[Danny99s]

It seems that lvl 55 common items drop rate is split among the 4 types instead of getting others besides the one we are target farming

 

[OrionZG]

In conclusion, the previous drop system was better because objects dropped more satisfactorily since you focused on a specific monster for that purpose. Now that everything drops randomly, it's slower.

 

[rars]

@Highway, please do something about the RNG, current situation is terrible

 

[DK FRANK]

Why are you not farming in the level tier you are? There you can hunt specitic items you want and have less RNG. Still going for higher tiers gives you a drop chance boost to compensate for the RNG 1:4 to get the item you want. The rest you can sell for DD.

nao faz sentido pegar itens aleatorios sendo que o item que eu queri nn dropa o que adianta eu ter uma pagina de items que nn quero e nao ter o que preciso e vc falo que posso vender os items que nao for precisar mas ca entre nos juntar varios items aleatorios e vender nn gera quase nada de dd e so ocupaçao de espaço de inventario isso e so mas uma forma de vcs fazer mas dinheiro em cima dos jogadores meio que esse cistema de dropes força muitos a gastar dinheiro pra compra o gel energetico e mesmo asim nao resolve o problema atual so almenta mas ainda o drop de itens que nao vamos precisar naquele momento muitos estao parado de jogar o jogo aus poucos e os novos jogadores estao ficando frustrados e acaba desanimando do jogo e vcs mesmo causa esso so pra lenbrar sem jogadores o jogo nn existe entao se preocupem mais com os seus jogadores e parem de pensar um pouco no bolso de vcs

 

[Alewx]

In conclusion, the previous drop system was better because objects dropped more satisfactorily since you focused on a specific monster for that purpose. Now that everything drops randomly, it's slower.

leading to the common issue of not enough mobs for that specific item and ppl complaining about it, and then going in and kosing other players because they were hunting at the same spot.

 

[slejd2001]

I'll tell that my 33 lvl clanmate is hunting at 35 lvl area and says he likes that 2 types of 30 lvl uncommon items drop from same mobs, that its simpler for him.

 

[Aprilslight]

Why are you not farming in the level tier you are? There you can hunt specitic items you want and have less RNG. Still going for higher tiers gives you a drop chance boost to compensate for the RNG 1:4 to get the item you want. The rest you can sell for DD.

You clearly don't care why people like the game. Why do so many games destroy the enjoyable parts of a game for ego?

 

[Blank_Sven67]

And why force the player to spend weeks or even months collecting certain items when NPCs drop them randomly, but some items don't drop as they should? The gel seems like a recovery implant, it barely has any effect... And the randomness wouldn't be a problem if the drop rate were more balanced or if the NPCs dropped more items. Not to mention that everyone usually uses PvP protection during PvE hunts, so this argument doesn't even make sense.

 

[OrionZG]

Or they can simply make certain mobs give a better drop rate for specific items.

 

[H O A R A H]

leading to the common issue of not enough mobs for that specific item and ppl complaining about it, and then going in and kosing other players because they were hunting at the same spot.

I think we can talk without attacking each other and finally reach a common ground. I agree with what Alewx said because the higher hunting zones were always overcrowded, besides the fact that the whole game is meant to be enjoyed, but in the current era we fall into the issue of immediacy, we want everything and we want it yesterday, Highway's suggestion is not wrong, they created a game with diverse areas and landscapes that players don't even contemplate, what I mean is: the game is balanced and according to the new drop style and facilities given to players to level up, it is possible to reach the maximum with a challenging but exciting effort. Today a friend tested what he said, and guess what? It dropped like water, in his level zone.

Furthermore, whenever we bring our feedback it is indeed for improvements on points that we agree on in common, not to attack those who gave life to this game.
I'm not taking sides here, but I think that if we want to reach an agreement, we should communicate more politely and be very clear about what we're looking for.

 

[OrionZG]

I think we can talk without attacking each other and finally reach a common ground. I agree with what Alewx said because the higher hunting zones were always overcrowded, besides the fact that the whole game is meant to be enjoyed, but in the current era we fall into the issue of immediacy, we want everything and we want it yesterday, Highway's suggestion is not wrong, they created a game with diverse areas and landscapes that players don't even contemplate, what I mean is: the game is balanced and according to the new drop style and facilities given to players to level up, it is possible to reach the maximum with a challenging but exciting effort. Today a friend tested what he said, and guess what? It dropped like water, in his level zone.

Furthermore, whenever we bring our feedback it is indeed for improvements on points that we agree on in common, not to attack those who gave life to this game.
I'm not taking sides here, but I think that if we want to reach an agreement, we should communicate more politely and be very clear about what we're looking for.

Amen

 

[Springtrap]

Why are you not farming in the level tier you are? There you can hunt specitic items you want and have less RNG. Still going for higher tiers gives you a drop chance boost to compensate for the RNG 1:4 to get the item you want. The rest you can sell for DD.

thats not a solution tbh , hunting the same tier will take much time too and the point of the update was making lvling up is kinda easier than before

 

[Dziobak]

can you add stones drop at 55 area?