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http://dinostorm.com/en/update-changelog-february-25th-2014

Not much to say, but thanks for this week's (fairly insignificant) improvements/features.
The Sheriff's Monument is fantastic, though it isn't a fun nor this-will-make-me-play-and-buy-gold-coins feature.
I need more information about the Guardians Outposts.
Why is there a Dinoville Outpost where there is no PvP?
If you rent a guardian in DV, what level will it be?
Does the guardian travel/teleport between maps with the renter?
If the renter logs out and logs back in within the 3 hour renting time period, will the guardian still be available?

I could rent one to answer my own questions but think I shouldn't have to do so.
You (Splitscreen) should provide accurate/up-to-date information for all of your features.
 

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Hello pulp fiction,

Why is there a Dinoville Outpost where there is no PvP?
this outpost is for all incoming users in DV. All player can use all Outposts and can go from DV (non pvp) to a pvp zone.
If you rent a guardian in DV, what level will it be?
It doesn't matter which level. All Outposts can be use from all players.

Does the guardian travel/teleport between maps with the renter?
You will find in all maps the guardian Outposts on different locations.

If the renter logs out and logs back in within the 3 hour renting time?
The time expires server-independet, whether youre online or offline.
You can use the protection after the 3 hours or if You don´t have a Outlaw / Duellant status.
But remember ! It decrease 5% from your fame when you use protection.

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Is a duelist able to buy protection from a guardian or are they left to fend for themselves? If they can buy protection why bother having a clan since no one can attack them when they defend their claim?
 

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I was asking about the level of the Guardians in DV...
if I, as a level 25 ranger, rent a Guardian in DV, will it be level 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 or 25?
I saw a level 1 Guardian on a Coelophysis at the Outpost in the level 15 area of Mokon Woods,
so I'm wondered what level Guardian I'd get from each outpost (1 in DV, 2 each in GF and MW).
 

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Pulp Fiction said:
I was asking about the level of the Guardians in DV...
if I, as a level 25 ranger, rent a Guardian in DV, will it be level 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 or 25?
I saw a level 1 Guardian on a Coelophysis at the Outpost in the level 15 area of Mokon Woods,
so I'm wondered what level Guardian I'd get from each outpost (1 in DV, 2 each in GF and MW).
Really wish I could edit my posts.
I mean I saw a level 1 Guardian on a Coel in the level 10 area of MW.
I also saw a level 1 Guardian on a Rex in the level 5 are of MW.
What is the purpose of lvl 1 Guardians, to look cute...?
 

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Also, about the Sheriffs Monument...
The first elected Sheriff should be at least honorably mentioned.
I asked who the first elected Sheriff was (of America_1) but forgot the name of the player.
Even if (s)he doesn't play now / hasn't played in past 12 months, an honorable mention at the Sheriffs Monument would be great.
 

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Hello again

Is a duelist able to buy protection from a guardian or are they left to fend for themselves? If they can buy protection why bother having a clan since no one can attack them when they defend their claim?
arachyd my answer is no , you can't use guardian protection
if you have Dull list . you can see example in following screenshot

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Really wish I could edit my posts.
I mean I saw a level 1 Guardian on a Coel in the level 10 area of MW.
I also saw a level 1 Guardian on a Rex in the level 5 are of MW.
What is the purpose of lvl 1 Guardians, to look cute...?
Pulp Fiction it doesn't matter from which level Guardian you get protection . its all about your fame
each time you get protection It decrease 5% from your fame . if you get from level 1 Guardian or level 25 . its all same
about level 1 Guardian been seen in different level area , so it's game decoration
here i have example screenshot . that show you there is no different to get protection from lvl 1 or lvl 25

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Also, about the Sheriffs Monument...
The first elected Sheriff should be at least honorably mentioned.
I asked who the first elected Sheriff was (of America_1) but forgot the name of the player.
Even if (s)he doesn't play now / hasn't played in past 12 months, an honorable mention at the Sheriffs Monument would be great.
i think Game Developer make a easy and simple task here for all players . if you have more fame you will become in top . that mean all players have equal chance to lead in sheriff Monument.

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Anyway this is feedback section , we really appreciate your feedback and ideas

Thanks & Regard
 

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You're misunderstanding my question...
or maybe I'm misunderstanding you / the feature.
I'm not asking about fame, I'm asking about damage (which I failed to initially mention, my apologies).

Do all level guardians inflict the same amount of damage?
A level 1 guardian on a Rex inflicts the same amount of damage of a level 20 guardian on a Brachi?

And again, what level guardian will I (lvl 25) get for protection?
Even if guardians of all levels inflict the same damage, I wouldn't want a level 1 guardian protecting me...
I'd want the highest level guardian.
 

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And about the Sheriffs Monument... you're, again, misunderstanding.
I asked for the first elected Sheriff to be honorably mentioned, not to be number 1.

I don't know where you're from (and what your native language is, because it doesn't appear to be English), but being the first President, King, Queen, Prime Minister, etc of a nation/country is noteworthy/historic(al). In Dino Storm, being the first Sheriff is noteworthy, so please honorably mention the first elected Sheriffs of each server at the Sheriffs Monument.

~ Thanks, Damien ~
 

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Pulp Fiction said:
In Dino Storm, being the first Sheriff is noteworthy, so please honorably mention the first elected Sheriffs of each server at the Sheriffs Monument.

~ Thanks, Damien ~
Monuments*
 

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Oh, now I see why you misunderstand.
By first Sheriff, I don't mean first on the list...
I mean first elected (meaning the very first Sheriff elected on the server in 2012).
 

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It absolutely does not give all sheriffs the same opportunity in the memorial. I was first sheriff on 2 servers. It was quite some time ago. There has been no reason for me to hold claims or spawns and no other way to earn fame in all this time. Unless I start playing again and hold claims and spawns, selfishly keeping them away from players who really need them to compete in elections, my name will be at the very bottom due to the utterly stupid daily fame loss taking away all my fame. Yet again ds proves itself unfair and tries to convince us otherwise.
 

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arachyd said:
It absolutely does not give all sheriffs the same opportunity in the memorial. I was first sheriff on 2 servers. It was quite some time ago. There has been no reason for me to hold claims or spawns and no other way to earn fame in all this time. Unless I start playing again and hold claims and spawns, selfishly keeping them away from players who really need them to compete in elections, my name will be at the very bottom due to the utterly stupid daily fame loss taking away all my fame. Yet again ds proves itself unfair and tries to convince us otherwise.
Well, that's the thing... they encourage players (especially now) to be self-serving by occupying offices and supplying and defending buildings for a steady flow and increase of fame.

A few problems with playing an incomplete game (a game without a final version) though is unpredictable updates/"improvements", game politics / alliances, (server) population, etc. New rules can change almost everything / how the game is played and how elections are won.

Do you remember how much fame you had when you were elected Sheriff on each of the 2 servers?
Did you progress from office to office (Ranger all the way to Sheriff) to efficiently use your fame?
 

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I have no idea how much fame I had when I won sheriff. No gap in time progressing through the elections. They should order it by how much fame you have when you won. I won without a lot of fame since the servers were new so this is not about getting my name on top.

This way of deciding the order only encourages those sheriffs who are so selfish they will keep holding the claims for themselves to keep their names on top. Players who have never gotten their t-rex will still be held back from it by this. Even though I applaud the change to prevent us from holding an office we've already won (I think I even suggested that a few times) they've simply shifted the problem from the elections to the claims. The ones who sat in their elected offices to block other players will now simply sit in ownership of the claims to block other players even though they don't need the t-rex.

Why don't the ds staff learn to think these things through?
 

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Since I still have not a clue how guardians work, I will assume one guardian only protects one player...
unlike outlaw hunters that attacked any outlaw in the hunter's vicinity. By this I mean, if a group of low level players are hunting together, and one of those player has a guardian accompanying him/her, and an outlaw attacks one of the players without a guardian, the guardian will not protect that player by attacking the outlaw. Whereas before Feb 25th, an outlaw hunter would attack any outlaw in its vicinity.

If my assumption is correct, then you (Splitscreen) are making this game worse (for different types of players, but usually for players who don't buy gold coins) each month. Though Outlaw Hunters should have initially only defended the players who used fame to summon the hunters, it didn't worked that way.
 

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Pulp Fiction said:
Since I still have not a clue how guardians work, I will assume one guardian only protects one player...
unlike outlaw hunters that attacked any outlaw in the hunter's vicinity. By this I mean, if a group of low level players are hunting together, and one of those players has a guardian accompanying him/her, and an outlaw attacks one of the players without a guardian, the guardian will not protect that player by attacking the outlaw. Whereas before Feb 25th, an outlaw hunter would attack any outlaw in its vicinity.

If my assumption is correct, then you (Splitscreen) are making this game worse (for different types of players, but usually for players who don't buy gold coins) each month. Though Outlaw Hunters should have initially only defended the players who used fame to summon the hunters, it didn't work that way.
Corrections in red.

Also, now outlaws can run around attacking without patrols (outlaw hunters) keeping them in check / chasing them away. I hadn't immediately realized that when I started this thread, unfortunately.

2 weeks prior to this update, you improved the outlaw hunters. What was the damn point?
The equipment of outlaw hunters has been upgraded to make sure they can enforce the law even against the strongest of outlaws. - February 11, 2013
 

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Pulp Fiction said:
Since I still have not a clue how guardians work, I will assume one guardian only protects one player...
unlike outlaw hunters that attacked any outlaw in the hunter's vicinity. By this I mean, if a group of low level players are hunting together, and one of those players has a guardian accompanying him/her, and an outlaw attacks one of the players without a guardian, the guardian will not protect that player by attacking the outlaw. Whereas before Feb 25th, an outlaw hunter would attack any outlaw in its vicinity.

If my assumption is correct, then you (Splitscreen) are making this game worse (for different types of players, but usually for players who don't buy gold coins) each month. Though Outlaw Hunters should have initially only defended the players who used fame to summon the hunters, it didn't work that way.
Corrections in red.

Also, now outlaws can run around attacking without patrols (outlaw hunters) keeping them in check / chasing them away. I hadn't immediately realized that when I started this thread, unfortunately.

2 weeks prior to this update, you improved the outlaw hunters. What was the damn point?
The equipment of outlaw hunters has been upgraded to make sure they can enforce the law even against the strongest of outlaws. - February 11, 2013
 

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primeoptimus said:
Really wish I could edit my posts.
I mean I saw a level 1 Guardian on a Coel in the level 10 area of MW.
I also saw a level 1 Guardian on a Rex in the level 5 are of MW.
What is the purpose of lvl 1 Guardians, to look cute...?
Pulp Fiction it doesn't matter from which level Guardian you get protection . its all about your fame
each time you get protection It decrease 5% from your fame . if you get from level 1 Guardian or level 25 . its all same
about level 1 Guardian been seen in different level area , so it's game decoration
here i have example screenshot . that show you there is no different to get protection from lvl 1 or lvl 25
You never got back to me, so I'll ask new questions.
You said it doesn't matter from which level Guardian you get protection. its all about your fame
So, one must click a specific guardian (not the outpost itself) to rent a guardian?
Since there are no level 25 guardians in DV, level 25 guardians can't be rented in DV?
So one must go into GF or MW to rent a level 25 guardian?
 

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The way I see it with this new update is basically making it so there is no punishment for those that outlaw, they can just outlaw and have no real consequences. If you were going to make this "pvp protection" you should of added it to the existing protection against outlaw hunters instead of doing away with them.

It is unjust because, I've seen across all servers, high leveled players picking on lower players that enter the zone immediately. They hang out at the entrances for the sole purpose of outlaw killing poor new players. This game is catering to no one but the Devs at this point. Not to mention you are now driving away your new member base. Its frustrating being constantly outlawed on, and lord forbid if you let your protection run out before you buy more, bigger members are like vultures just waiting for some low level's protection to wear off.

All in all, poor update. Caters to no one. And I'm not even going to start on the Sheriff's Monument. {AKA complete bogus reason for Sheriffs to hog claims like some already do}

Also to answer you Pulp because obviously, Prime isn't going to. The sole purpose of the Guardians is show. When you have protection, you cannot be attacked, plain and simple. No Guardians show up to protect you or anything like that, its just you have a special badge that says players do not have the option to attack.
 

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SandySauce, thank you! Would've replied sooner but I was "locked out" for spam. ;) @ Faye
Wow, so guardians don't actually guard? :LOL: The system just says you're protected for 3 hours? :LOL:
 

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Oh, I see now...


The blue star is the guardian of protection :LOL: How lazy of the devs!
 
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